Help for cubers who want to beat sub-x (CFOP)

[ProStar]

Yeah, I'm sub-17 and only know full OLL and all PLL. My f2l is 7 seconds, my ll algs take a bit over 2 seconds each on average. It's sad, and I'm drilling them to get better, but I'm this close to sub 15.

That's 9 seconds. And if you mean each LL step takes 2 seconds, that's still 11 seconds. You probably have a slower F2L

 

[Zubin Park]

That's 9 seconds. And if you mean each LL step takes 2 seconds, that's still 11 seconds. You probably have a slower F2L

Yeah, a lot of people underestimate how long their F2L actually is.

 

[Humble Cuber]

You can even get sub 15 without full OLL, im sub 15 and don't use full OLL

 

[Deleted member 51471]

Some people are sub-10 without full OLL

 

[EvanTheCuber]

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[fun at the joy]

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is not even close to sub-10

 

[Owen Morrison]

I agree, however full OLL is a bonus as it cuts off at least 2 seconds of your time, maybe more.

I didn't learn full OLL until I averaged sub 12 and it definitely did not make me 2 seconds faster. It made me probably 0.5-1 seconds faster.

 

[Cubing5life]

I am the guy that learned full OLL before full PLL... I was averaging around 20...

 

[Mo_A2244]

I didn't learn full OLL until I averaged sub 12 and it definitely did not make me 2 seconds faster. It made me probably 0.5-1 seconds faster.

This may or may not be to do with how long it usually took for you to do OLL (2 look) compared to how much time other people took for 2 look OLL.

 

[rj]

That's 9 seconds. And if you mean each LL step takes 2 seconds, that's still 11 seconds. You probably have a slower F2L

Nope, rest of the time is recognition. I have awful alg speeds for ll, too. I average close to 14 until I get an n-perm or bad oll case, which adds another two seconds, which screws up my average.

 

[BenChristman1]

This is a great guide, but I would recommend putting each section in a spoiler, so that it doesn't take up as much space, and so that people don't have to scroll through the things that they don't want/need to read.

 

[Username: Username:]

I am the guy that learned full OLL before full PLL... I was averaging around 20...

Haha me too, I learned full OLL before full PLL first when I was averaging around 19 because the formatting of the PLL algsheet makes me think that the PLL algs are longer so I learnt full OLL cause I thought they were shorter than full PLL

 

[alexiscubing]

I need

Spoiler

I would like some critiquing, I average low-mid 12 with mostly intuitive F2L (i very rarely pair up to a R U R' insert, aminly just make the pair in slot to do U R U' R'. I know abt half the OLLs and full PLL, and my main strengths are high TPS and solid lookahead, which is why even though my solves are like 70 moves, I average so good.

 

[rj]

I need

Spoiler

I would like some critiquing, I average low-mid 12 with mostly intuitive F2L (i very rarely pair up to a R U R' insert, aminly just make the pair in slot to do U R U' R'. I know abt half the OLLs and full PLL, and my main strengths are high TPS and solid lookahead, which is why even though my solves are like 70 moves, I average so good.

You sound a bit ahead of me, except I use fewer moves. Can you post splits?

 

[alexiscubing]

You sound a bit ahead of me, except I use fewer moves. Can you post splits?

I cant use splits timers because it really slows down my times when using multiphase.
I am guessing
1.5~ cross
7.5~ F2L
2~OLL
1.5~PLL

 

[Cubing5life]

I cant use splits timers because it really slows down my times when using multiphase.
I am guessing
1.5~ cross
7.5~ F2L
2~OLL
1.5~PLL

You could just press the space bar with your foot, but either way it shouldn’t really slow you down.

 

[Username: Username:]

I cant use splits timers because it really slows down my times when using multiphase.
I am guessing
1.5~ cross
7.5~ F2L
2~OLL
1.5~PLL

if you want to be faster than mid 12 you will probably have to be faster in your cross and definitely OLL, that's what I'm seeing here.

 

[Zubin Park]

This is a great guide, but I would recommend putting each section in a spoiler, so that it doesn't take up as much space, and so that people don't have to scroll through the things that they don't want/need to read.

This is my first one, sorry guys. It'll be there for my next one!

 

[alexiscubing]

if you want to be faster than mid 12 you will probably have to be faster in your cross and definitely OLL, that's what I'm seeing here.

I am averaging low 12 so (shrug emoji)
I am going to start learning OLL this week

 

[rj]

I cant use splits timers because it really slows down my times when using multiphase.
I am guessing
1.5~ cross
7.5~ F2L
2~OLL
1.5~PLL

That's a cross/lookahead problem. Do you do any xcross? Time to work on spotting your first pair in inspection and optimizing cross speed.