H-Perm help?

[hic2482w]

So I was playing around with the H-Perm, many of you probably use this:

M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2

And this hperm isn't exactly different, but I was just wondering if it was faster?

(R' M r) U (R' M r) U2 (R' M r) U (R' M r)

edit: Yes, I did mean (R' M' r) U (R' M' r) U2 (R' M' r) U (R' M' r)

 

[EricReese]

EW. No. Dear god no.

 

[LewisJ]

I think you mean R' M' r; R' M r does nothing to a solved cube. That, with the little fingerpull trick, is basically how many people execute M2, and it's the same exact alg.

 

[ianography]

If it fits your style, go with it.

 

[JonnyWhoopes]

So I was playing around with the H-Perm, many of you probably use this:

M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2

And this hperm isn't exactly different, but I was just wondering if it was faster?

(R' M r) U (R' M r) U2 (R' M r) U (R' M r)

Two things to note. First off, with the notation you used, your algorithm is equal to U4.

Second off, it's always faster to learn the M-triggers.

 

[Cool Frog]

So I was playing around with the H-Perm, many of you probably use this:

M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2

And this hperm isn't exactly different, but I was just wondering if it was faster?

(R' M' r) U (R' M' r) U2 (R' M'r) U (R' M' r)

Fixed, just a different fingertrick.... try performing r2 R2

 

[Jukuren]

first few algs show how to do M slice quick without the double flick

 

[Sebastien]

This might be a good point to ask this:

So I was playing around with the Niklas, many of you probably use this:

R U' L' U R' U' L U

And this this one might be a bit different, but I was just wondering if it was faster?

(R' D' R D)*4 U (R' D' R D)*4 U (R' D' R D)*4 U2 x R2 D2 R U R' D2 R U' R

 

[Rpotts]

Just do r2 R2' or something similar if you don't want to practice the M2 double flick.

Or try this

M2' U' M2' U2' M2' U' M2'

easier for me, I use left ring-middle double flick for the M2's and my left index for the U's

 

[uberCuber]

This might be a good point to ask this:

So I was playing around with the Niklas, many of you probably use this:

R U' L' U R' U' L U

And this this one might be a bit different, but I was just wondering if it was faster?

(R' D' R D)*4 U (R' D' R D)*4 U (R' D' R D)*4 U2 x R2 D2 R U R' D2 R U' R

I love it. I'm gonna start usin that

 

[Joël]

So I was playing around with the H-Perm, many of you probably use this:

M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2

And this hperm isn't exactly different, but I was just wondering if it was faster?

(R' M r) U (R' M r) U2 (R' M r) U (R' M r)

Remember that the M slice turns in the same direction as the L layer. So this doesn't do much.

I used to do M2 as r (M' R'), M' with left middle or ring finger, this reduces the movements of the wrists compared to doing it as r2 R2'. I think a double flick is faster for M2 (that's why I switched), but it's a bit harder to learn/master. You can try double flicking with middle and index of the same hand, but many people also alternate with one finger from the left, and another from the right hand.

Something more about the U moves in the H: Recently I started doing them as U' U2 U', notice the U' and U2 are in different directions, I push U' with the right index, and pull the U2 from BRU all the way to FLU; doing it this way reduces the movement of the index finger (compared to U U2 U).

 

[Diniz]

OP, dont listen to the people mocking you, its a nice way to execute it (i can sub1 that way).

But the M2 trigger is faster (i can sub0.8 with it).

 

[Cool Frog]

I love it. I'm gonna start usin that

Sub 1 video sometime?

I actually prefer the U' M2 U2 M2 U M2 U2 M2

 

[Cyrus C.]

I like this finger trick, used it for a while. I execute the M' and r at the same time.

 

[Julian]

From the OAQT...

I used to do L2 l2' for the M2s, but now I do this:
Put your left thumb on the FL sticker, and your left middle finger on the BL sticker.
Do HALF of an L move. As you finish this, place your left ring finger on the UB sticker.
Pull your ring finger all the way down for the M2.
Do the Us and U2s as part of the same motion of the previous M2.

Takes some getting used to, but much faster.
Of course you can do all this with your right hand as well.

 

[collinbxyz]

I do the M2's with my right middle finger, than I use my left index finger for the U's. Instead of M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2, I do M2 U' M2 U2 M2 U' M. I can do it in about 1.5 seconds. I am not that fast =[

 

[Joël]

From the OAQT...

I used to do L2 l2' for the M2s, but now I do this:
Put your left thumb on the FL sticker, and your left middle finger on the BL sticker.
Do HALF of an L move. As you finish this, place your left ring finger on the UB sticker.
Pull your ring finger all the way down for the M2.

It's funny how this is very similar to r (M' R'). L and r are pretty much the same.. And just like I also move my left wrist a little in r (M'R'), I am pretty sure you will also use your right wrist a little bit when doing .5L (M2 .5L') (lol, new kind of notation?). This may seem trivial, but I find that it helps to be aware of which hand is doing what kind of work. In some algs, it helps to recognise that I have to find more 'balance' and let my left and right hand cooperate better. An example of this is the T-perm. I found out that my right hand was a bit 'dominant' and I could execute it just a little faster by doing something in between R2 U' and (l R) U', and have less lockups on the last move by ending with (.5l' .5R') F', rather then R' F'... Or in other words; if I reminded myself to use my left hand to turn l' just a little, so that I could not see the U center anymore, I get less lockups on the last move.

(Sorry for going a bit off-topic with this, but maybe some details about how I think about this can help/inspire some newbies..?)

 

[Julian]

It's funny how this is very similar to r (M' R'). L and r are pretty much the same.. And just like I also move my left wrist a little in r (M'R'), I am pretty sure you will also use your right wrist a little bit when doing .5L (M2 .5L') (lol, new kind of notation?). This may seem trivial, but I find that it helps to be aware of which hand is doing what kind of work. In some algs, it helps to recognise that I have to find more 'balance' and let my left and right hand cooperate better. An example of this is the T-perm. I found out that my right hand was a bit 'dominant' and I could execute it just a little faster by doing something in between R2 U' and (l R) U', and have less lockups on the last move by ending with (.5l' .5R') F', rather then R' F'... Or in other words; if I reminded myself to use my left hand to turn l' just a little, so that I could not see the U center anymore, I get less lockups on the last move.


(Sorry for going a bit off-topic with this, but maybe some details about how I think about this can help/inspire some newbies..?)

Yeah, I also noticed the similarities You just made me realize all the .5 cube rotations I do in my algs (T-perm, V-perm ending, Y-perm ending, even Ucw)
With the H-perm, I just realized, the Us and U2s are actually half-U, half F.