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I asked in the facebook group, DNF wins don't give any points.

If it's an average round and you DNF the average but do have a single success, is that considered a DNF win or not? Because it's not a complete DNF, I've always handled it as valid, here and elsewhere, so I'm currently giving points for such cases.
 
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If it's an average round and you DNF the average but do have a single success, is that considered a DNF win or not? Because it's not a complete DNF, I've always handled it as valid, here and elsewhere, so I'm currently giving points for such cases.

What would be the purpose in counting it? Because they did complete a part of the average? I would not count it simply because they did not even finish what is used to rank them, so singles don't mean anything.
 

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It's not a complete DNF. They did succeed in *something*, plus they can be meaningfully ranked. If you just have a bunch of people with five DNFs, you don't even know whether they can solve at all, and there's no way to tell who was the best. But if one of them instead has a 12.34 and another a 23.45, you can rank them and tell who was the best, second-best, and losers, and meaningfully declare them winner, second place, and losers.
 
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I would not count it simply because they did not even finish what is used to rank them, so singles don't mean anything.

Actually they're ranked by both average and single. Even in case of DNF average. Here's even a podium where that happened, have a look at Square-1 and you'll see two guys with DNF average and they're not given the same rank:
https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?top3=Top+3&competitionId=ColoradoSprings2013

And here's an example where (DNF average, success best) got a better rank than (DNF average, DNF best):
https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?top3=Top+3&competitionId=HoChiMinh2013
In the 7x7 event.
 
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Actually they're ranked by both average and single. Even in case of DNF average. Here's even a podium where that happened, have a look at Square-1 and you'll see two guys with DNF average and they're not given the same rank:
https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?top3=Top+3&competitionId=ColoradoSprings2013

And here's an example where (DNF average, success best) got a better rank than (DNF average, DNF best):
https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?top3=Top+3&competitionId=HoChiMinh2013
In the 7x7 event.

Ok, I agree with you. We'll see what Danial and Noah think.
 

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I think it's reasonable to count those people. A podium like that will not be worth very much anyway.

I'm going to make a definitive and clear list of scoring guidelines soon, and hopefully that will clear things up.

EDIT: The OP has been updated with new, improved and hopefully clear scoring guidelines. Please tell me if something is ambiguous or I forgot anything.
 
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