F2L solutions

[Cride5]

Do you want me to post my solutions? I only average sub-30 so I'm not that incredible, I can insert DF and DB to make it an F2L solution for you if you would like.

Can't see why it would do any harm

 

[miniGOINGS]

Solver: Matthew

Method: Roux (this is a [first block]+[second block]+[line] variation)

Average: 30

Scrambles

1.) U R2 B' D' B' L2 U2 R' D2 R2 U2 F' B2 U F R2 L2 B2 R F2 R B2 L2 U L'

2.) L D' B F2 L B' R' U F' D F B U' F D R' B' R2 L2 B2 F2 R F U' D2

3.) Coming Soon!

4.) L R' B' U F D2 U' R' D2 F2 B D' R2 B' U2 F R' B2 R B' R' B' D R' B'

5.) D2 R F2 D' F2 U' L2 R2 F2 B2 U2 F' D' R' L' D2 F U2 F' B R U2 L2 B2 D'

Solutions

1.) S' R2 d' r2 F' B U' S'
R' U R U r U' R U M' U' R U2 r U R'
U2 M U2 M
8 + 15 + 4 = 27 moves STM

2.) D L u R U’ B2 U r’ S’
r2 R U’ R’ U M’ U’ R U’ M2 U R2 U’ M U R
M U’ M U M U M’ U2 M
9 + 16 + 9 = 34 moves STM

3.) Coming Soon!

4.) B' u2 R' U2 B2 r' S' U' S'
U' R' U' r' U2 R U R2 U' R U M U' R2 U' M2 U R
U M' U M' U' M
9 + 18 +6 = 33 moves STM

5.) U' B R' u' R D' R U r U' S'
r U' R' U' R U' M U R2
U M2 U2 M' U M' U2 M
11 + 9 + 8 = 28 moves STM

 

[Edam]

Fridrich
~14-15 seconds

U R2 B' D' B' L2 U2 R' D2 R2 U2 F' B2 U F R2 L2 B2 R F2 R B2 L2 U L'

x2 D U R2 L U2 y' R2
L U2 L' y R U2 R'
U R' U R y' L' U2 L
y R' U' R U' R' U R
y2 R' U R U' R' U R

I use a LOT of cube rotations, but my move count is ok i think. 33

L D' B F2 L B' R' U F' D F B U' F D R' B' R2 L2 B2 F2 R F U' D2

x2 U' R' U' R' F D' R' D'
L' U L y' L' U' L
U R U' R' U R U R'
y U2 R U R'
U R' U' R U' R' U R

34 moves, less rotations

R' L2 B' D2 B' L2 U' R D' F R' F2 L U D' B' U R U R' U' D' B D2 R2

x2 y L R' U R' F D'
R U' R2 U' R
y' U R U R' U' R U R'
y' U' R' F R F' R U' R'
L U' L' U2 L U2 L' U L U' L'

38 Moves.

L R' B' U F D2 U' R' D2 F2 B D' R2 B' U2 F R' B2 R B' R' B' D R' B'

x2 R D F R2 B2
U L U2 L' y' U L' U' L
U' R' U' R2 U R'
L U' L' y U' R' U' R
U R U R' U' R U R'

D2 R F2 D' F2 U' L2 R2 F2 B2 U2 F' D' R' L' D2 F U2 F' B R U2 L2 B2 D'

x2 y' L F' U R' F U2 F B2 D'
y' R2 U R2 U' R' U2 R'
U L2 F' L2 F
U2 L U L' U2 L U' L'

I'm actually really happy with the start of this one. awful cross but really nice first 2 pairs. 29 moves.

 

[James]

I'm still fairly new to ZZ (I average about 29 seconds), but here are my ZZF2L solutions:

Scramble 1: U R2 B' D' B' L2 U2 R' D2 R2 U2 F' B2 U F R2 L2 B2 R F2 R B2 L2 U L'

R D' F' R' F' D' R D
L' U' L2 U2 L' U' L2 R U L
R U' R2 U R' U R U2 R' U2 R2 U R U2 R' U2 R U2 R'

37 moves
This includes phasing, which I always do during the F2L

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Scramble 2: L D' B F2 L B' R' U F' D F B U' F D R' B' R2 L2 B2 F2 R F U' D2

F' U' L D B' L' R D'
L U' L' U L U' L' U2 R' U R' L' U L
U' R2 U R' U' R2 U' R' U' R U R' U2 R U' R'

38 moves

In the second solve, once you reached this stage did you notice the lucky block ready to slot into the back-left slot? From here a quick R' U2 R would have done your RH 1x2x2

No, during my solve I did not see that, but now I will look out for similar cases in the future. Normally I solve one block at a time, and I never really thought about doing them simultaneously. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Cride5]

In the second solve, once you reached this stage did you notice the lucky block ready to slot into the back-left slot? From here a quick R' U2 R would have done your RH 1x2x2

No, during my solve I did not see that, but now I will look out for similar cases in the future. Normally I solve one block at a time, and I never really thought about doing them simultaneously. Thanks for the tip.

Completed blocks are a gift, so breaking them up is deffo a no no. However, sometimes 'over' analysing for other blocks can hinder the speed too. I've found myself trying to manipulate three completed blocks simultaneously, and all it did was turn it into some kind of FM scenario and slowed me down. Deffo use shortcuts like that, but in moderation. Over optimising requires too much thinking mid-solve. More thought = less speed

 

[gasmus]

Method: Fridrich
Average: 9-10 secs


1.) U R2 B' D' B' L2 U2 R' D2 R2 U2 F' B2 U F R2 L2 B2 R F2 R B2 L2 U L'

z2y'UL'lF'l
U2R'U'RLU'L'
y'RU'LR'U2L'
U2RU'R2'UR
U'F'U'F
=28 moves

2.) L D' B F2 L B' R' U F' D F B U' F D R' B' R2 L2 B2 F2 R F U' D2

yDU'R'y'L'R'FR2u'
LU2L'U'LUL'
DRU'R'D'
DU2'R'UR
=25 moves (23 if you count cancellations)

3.)R' L2 B' D2 B' L2 U' R D' F R' F2 L U D' B' U R U R' U' D' B D2 R2

y'D2LFL'ULD'R
yR'U2RU'L'U'L
U'R'U'RU2'R'U'R
U2RU'R'URU'R'URU'R'
=35

4.) L R' B' U F D2 U' R' D2 F2 B D' R2 B' U2 F R' B2 R B' R' B' D R' B'

y'xU2R'F'R2x'
L'U2L2U'L'
y'U'LUL'
R2'FRF'R'x'UFU'F'l'UR'
=25

5.)D2 R F2 D' F2 U' L2 R2 F2 B2 U2 F' D' R' L' D2 F U2 F' B R U2 L2 B2 D'

yR'DFR2UL2'D'
U'R'U'RLU'L'
U2L'U'LU'L'UL
R'U2RU'R'UR
U2RUR'U'F'U'F
=37

I was hoping to throw in some cool tricks but there was no need these scrambles are all fairly easy.

You might notice there are a few cases where i can save a few moves but i go for less rotations/fingertrick friendly over efficiency.

Notice that almost always I complete the BL pair first, then complete the FL or BR, then finally the FR.

doesn't sound familiar at all

i use this general order for f2l slots but it all depends on the orientation of the middle layer edges
i.e. if all edges are oriented for L and R then i would solve BL, FL, BR, FR

 

[Edam]

tsk Breandan, your 3rd 4th and 5th solutions don't work!
the 5th one goes a bit wonky after the first slot and i haven't worked out why yet. The 4th is missing an x' after the cross and the 3rd is missing a y after the cross.

-edit-
got it
it should be:
yR'DFR2UL2'D'
U'R'U'RLU'L'
U2L'U'LU'L'UL
R'U2RU'R'UR
U2RUR'U'F'U'F

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

tsk Breandan, your 3rd 4th and 5th solutions don't work!
the 5th one goes a bit wonky after the first slot and i haven't worked out why yet.

That's because U2L'U'L'U'L'UL should be U2L'U'LU'L'UL

 

[gasmus]

Thanks guys sorry, i had to leave and didnt have time to check them until now. I knew if i made any mistakes you could work them out yourselves anyway

 

[DavidWoner]

Oh wow am I really the first cross on left solver to post?

Method: Fridrich, Cross on left, Opposite-color nuetral (white/yellow)
Average: ~15
F2L average: 8-10

1.) U R2 B' D' B' L2 U2 R' D2 R2 U2 F' B2 U F R2 L2 B2 R F2 R B2 L2 U L'

XCross: y' U2 R2 z' x' U' R U L' (R + l) U F2
F2L 2: x l' U R' U' l' x U R' U'
F2L 3: x2 U R' U' R U R U'
F2L 4: x2 R2' U' R U
28 moves

2.) L D' B F2 L B' R' U F' D F B U' F D R' B' R2 L2 B2 F2 R F U' D2

XCross: y' x' L' U' x' U' r' R' U R2
F2L 2: y x2 U R U' R U R U'
F2L 3: l' U' R' U R2' U' R U
F2L 4: l' U' R U R2' U' R U
30 moves

3.)R' L2 B' D2 B' L2 U' R D' F R' F2 L U D' B' U R U R' U' D' B D2 R2

XCross: x2 U2 F L y' R' D R U' L
F2L 2: z' (R + l) U' R' U R U' R' U R
F2L 3: x2 U' R U
F2L 4: x R U' R U R2' U' R U
28 moves

4.) L R' B' U F D2 U' R' D2 F2 B D' R2 B' U2 F R' B2 R B' R' B' D R' B'

White cross:

XCross: R' F' d R L2 U2 R' U' R'
F2L 2: z' l' U R' U' R2 U R' U'
F2L 3: (R' + l') U' R2 U R2' U' R U
F2L 4: x2 U R U' l U' R' U
32 moves

Yellow cross:

XCross: r U2 r' D' R D' L2 U L' D
F2L 2: y z l' U R2 U' R' U R U'
F2L 3: x' R' U R U' R U R' U'
F2L 4: x' l U R' U (R + l) U' R' U
34 moves

5.)D2 R F2 D' F2 U' L2 R2 F2 B2 U2 F' D' R' L' D2 F U2 F' B R U2 L2 B2 D'

Cross: x2 R2 B R U' F U2 L' U
F2L 1: y2 z' U' R2 U2 R U'
F2L 2: x U R U2 R' U
F2L 3: x U' R2 U
F2L 4: x2 U' R U l' U R U'
28 moves


I usually only do XCross if a corner is in place already, and many of these were very easy.

 

[Piotr]

Method: Fridrich
Average: 11 - 12 seconds

1) U R2 B' D' B' L2 U2 R' D2 R2 U2 F' B2 U F R2 L2 B2 R F2 R B2 L2 U L'

F2UwR'L'Uw'
U'R'U2L'U'LUR
U2yRUR'
U'R'URyRU2R'
U'yR'U2RU'R'UR

32 moves

2) L D' B F2 L B' R' U F' D F B U' F D R' B' R2 L2 B2 F2 R F U' D2

yFR'LF'D'R'Uw'
RUR'URUR'
DwL'U'LU'L'UL
RUR'

25 moves

3) R' L2 B' D2 B' L2 U' R D' F R' F2 L U D' B' U R U R' U' D' B D2 R2

y'D2LFL'ULD'R
yR'U2RU'L'U'L
U'R'U'RU2R'U'R
yL'ULU'L'ULU'L'UL

34 moves

4) L R' B' U F D2 U' R' D2 F2 B D' R2 B' U2 F R' B2 R B' R' B' D R' B'

L2F'Uw'R2
U'yRUwR'URUw'R'
L'UL2UL'
L'ULU'L'U'L
Dw2yLUL'

28 moves

5) D2 R F2 D' F2 U' L2 R2 F2 B2 U2 F' D' R' L' D2 F U2 F' B R U2 L2 B2 D'

yR'FR2UwL2D2yL2
U'LUL'ULU'L'
R'U'RU'R'UR
U2RUR'U'RUR'
L'U2LU'L'U2LDw'LUL'

40 moves

 

[marineasalia]

Avg ~ 18sec

1) U R2 B' D' B' L2 U2 R' D2 R2 U2 F' B2 U F R2 L2 B2 R F2R B2 L2 U L'

U D L2 R U2 B2 (6)
U L U2 L' U2 L U' L' (8)
U R' U R2 U R' (6)
U' R' U R (4)
y' R U' R' y U' L' U L (9)

Total 33 Moves

 

[Zaxef]

This thread was EXTREMELY helpful to me, thank you very much everyone for the F2L tricks and tips

 

[miniGOINGS]

This thread was EXTREMELY helpful to me, thank you very much everyone for the F2L tricks and tips

Did you learn anything from me?

 

[Zaxef]

This thread was EXTREMELY helpful to me, thank you very much everyone for the F2L tricks and tips

Did you learn anything from me?

No sorry, I don't see the relevance of improving my F2L with Roux solutions

 

[miniGOINGS]

No sorry, I don't see the relevance of improving my F2L with Roux solutions

YES!! Thanks exactly what I was hoping for .

 

[jms_gears1]

Lol ok so with Roux just do F2B

 

[miniGOINGS]

Lol ok so with Roux just do F2B

Haha, I did the F2B and then added DF and DB, needless to say the last step took about a third of the turns and completely screwed up the speed part of Roux.

 

[jms_gears1]

yea
i love roux maybe should make an F2B thread. But not many ppl use Roux..

 

[miniGOINGS]

yea
i love roux maybe should make an F2B thread. But not many ppl use Roux..

Haha, you'd be suprised to see how many people are starting Roux.