F2L Help

[Mariah94]

So, I've got intuitive F2l down, or I think I do. The thing is, the algorithms? There are a lot of F2l algorithms, should I learn them? Any sites you would suggest that have them listed?

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

http://cubewhiz.com/f2l.html

 

[josmil1]

IMO f2l intuitive is much better. The reason for that is you can understand the cube better instead of just memorizing algorithms. Although there are some cases that are difficult(longer) to execute if you were to do intuitive rather than learn the alg. With practice you will recognize these but for the most part stick with intuitive until you feel extremely comfortable with it.

 

[cincyaviation]

So, I've got intuitive F2l down, or I think I do. The thing is, the algorithms? There are a lot of F2l algorithms, should I learn them? Any sites you would suggest that have them listed?

do not learn all the algorithms, it is a waste of time, maybe learn 4 or 5 for the harder cases, and if you do need some tips and tricks for the harder cases then check out erik akkersdijk's advanced f2l tutorial on youtube

 

[AndyRoo789]

Stick with intuitive F2L, and only learn the algs you find takes you too many moves. And if you do learn a few F2L algs, make sure you understand how the alg works.

 

[qqwref]

Learn the algorithms.

However! When you learn F2L algorithms the goal is not to just blindly memorize a series of moves. You should go through and understand exactly how they put the pieces together. Once you understand what the algorithm's doing, you should be able to do it from any angle. This way, you start off learning (understanding, not memorizing) a very fast way to do every possible case, so you get the same benefits of intuitive solving but in a fraction of the time.

So, for example, take this algorithm: R U2 R' U' R U R' (set up the case with R U' R' U R U2 R'). Don't just do the moves - watch the corners and edge and see what happens. The R U2 R' trigger here moves only the corner, and sets it up so that the corner and edge form a disconnected pair. The last four moves just inserts that pair. From that alg, you know how to deal with that case - put the corner above the empty slot, do a trigger with a U2 in it, and then just insert the disconnected pair you get.

 

[Zarxrax]

Browse through the algorithms. Look at each case, and see how you would do it intuitively. If the algorithm seems significantly nicer than your intuitive method, then learn the algorithm. As you go through each case, looking at each algorithm, you will probably pick up a few new intuitive tricks.

Next, learn to do insertions intuitively from different angles. For instance, instead of always having to insert into the front-right corner, see if you can insert into the back-right corner for each case, or the front-left. I usually find that the back-left is hopeless without a cube rotation, but it wouldn't hurt for you to try there too.

 

[cincyaviation]

also
"Do not use a generic title such as "Help please" or "What to do" or "Need advice" -- be specific!"
that is what appears above the title box when you are making a new thread, i would try to pay attention to things like that in this forum

 

[blakedacuber]

So, I've got intuitive F2l down, or I think I do. The thing is, the algorithms? There are a lot of F2l algorithms, should I learn them? Any sites you would suggest that have them listed?

Pestvic(thats also his youtube name!) posted aa vid called something like f2l tricks-come here to learn f2l
Id recomend watching and the vid responses!!!
Oh yeah Btw welcomw

 

[Mariah94]

http://cubewhiz.com/f2l.html

When i click your link, it says service unavailable

 

[puzzlemaster]

http://cubewhiz.com/f2l.html

When i click your link, it says service unavailable

works for me.

 

[Anthony]

check out erik akkersdijk's advanced f2l tutorial on youtube

lol. Are you kidding? She's a beginner. Seriously..

Pestvic(thats also his youtube name!) posted aa vid called something like f2l tricks-come here to learn f2l
Id recomend watching and the vid responses!!!

She won't learn very much from it. I wouldn't recommend it.

However, I would recommend watching these two videos.

I started out with these videos and found them very helpful.

 

[Edward]

check out erik akkersdijk's advanced f2l tutorial on youtube

lol. Are you kidding? She's a beginner. Seriously..

Pestvic(thats also his youtube name!) posted aa vid called something like f2l tricks-come here to learn f2l
Id recomend watching and the vid responses!!!

She won't learn very much from it. I wouldn't recommend it.

Then check out the beginner tutorial he made .

 

[Anthony]

check out erik akkersdijk's advanced f2l tutorial on youtube

lol. Are you kidding? She's a beginner. Seriously..

Then check out the beginner tutorial he made .

He didn't say that though, did he?
I also edited my post as you were typing yours up. I added meph's F2L videos.

 

[pappas]

I would recomend doing what qqwref suggested on the previous page. I tried learning the algorithm's blindly without looking at what they do, and it didnt work for me. It's important to know what your doing so that you can learn to do certain cases from all angles on the cube. Learn them more as ways of doing the case than as algorithms.

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

http://cubewhiz.com/f2l.html

When i click your link, it says service unavailable

works for me.

Bob Burton's page keeps being like that. Use the F5/Ctrl+R/Refreshing powers until the page appears.

 

[cincyaviation]

check out erik akkersdijk's advanced f2l tutorial on youtube

lol. Are you kidding? She's a beginner. Seriously..

you quoted me out of context, have you even watched that video? because if you haven't then you have no right to judge that reccomendation, erik's advanced F2L tutorial has algs for the hard cases and tips like slotting from every angle and looking ahead, which are great things for a beginner to learn

 

[wubiks]

check out erik akkersdijk's advanced f2l tutorial on youtube

lol. Are you kidding? She's a beginner. Seriously..

you quoted me out of context, have you even watched that video? because if you haven't then you have no right to judge that reccomendation, erik's advanced F2L tutorial has algs for the hard cases and tips like slotting from every angle and looking ahead, which are great things for a beginner to learn

To be honest.. Erik's f2l video is a little sloppy and unorganized even though he does show some good tips. I would recommend theWestonian's f2l video as he goes through all the "essential" f2l cases.. the ones that aren't as easily "intuitive". She can learn the intuitive or easy cases on her own.. that's the fun part.

 

[rubiknewbie]

Learn the algorithms.

However! When you learn F2L algorithms the goal is not to just blindly memorize a series of moves. You should go through and understand exactly how they put the pieces together. Once you understand what the algorithm's doing, you should be able to do it from any angle. This way, you start off learning (understanding, not memorizing) a very fast way to do every possible case, so you get the same benefits of intuitive solving but in a fraction of the time.

So, for example, take this algorithm: R U2 R' U' R U R' (set up the case with R U' R' U R U2 R'). Don't just do the moves - watch the corners and edge and see what happens. The R U2 R' trigger here moves only the corner, and sets it up so that the corner and edge form a disconnected pair. The last four moves just inserts that pair. From that alg, you know how to deal with that case - put the corner above the empty slot, do a trigger with a U2 in it, and then just insert the disconnected pair you get.

I learn it this way.

 

[rubiknewbie]

check out erik akkersdijk's advanced f2l tutorial on youtube

lol. Are you kidding? She's a beginner. Seriously..

you quoted me out of context, have you even watched that video? because if you haven't then you have no right to judge that reccomendation, erik's advanced F2L tutorial has algs for the hard cases and tips like slotting from every angle and looking ahead, which are great things for a beginner to learn

Ya I learned some F2L stuff from watching Erik and Felik's videos which they made look very easy.