F2l help for a nub :D

[ShintaKunX]

Hey, im new to this forum.
So my first question has to do with f2l fridrich method. I've learned the f2l intutive along with around 4-6 algs for some special cases. However, my f2l times vary so much. It can go from as little as 15 seconds to as much as 30. On a normal day it is around 20. Ive looked at many threads however cant seem to find the answer. Is memorizing the f2l neccesary after learning intuitive? Or am I jsut thinking to much during f2l idk lol. Ive constantly practiced the f2l and cant seem to get the hang of looking ahead. Have any tips? or jsut practice more? lol

 

[Lofty]

yes, practice more.

 

[shelley]

Is memorizing the f2l neccesary after learning intuitive?

Nope

Or am I jsut thinking to much during f2l

Possibly. Since you just learned intuitive F2L, you're probably still thinking about moves a lot. The more you practice, the less you'll have to think. Your objective is to be able to see an F2L pair, then execute the moves to pair and insert them automatically. This way you can focus on looking ahead for the next pair.

or jsut practice more?

Yep.

 

[Escher]

when you are completing a case, track another f2l pair. you will see that some algorithms wont affect which 'case' the other pair is in, whereas others will. while doing an algorithm, think of what you have to do next, and then you can be more efficient with moves etc. sorry if i dont make much sense, i just got up.

 

[McWizzle94]

go a LOT slower when starting to look ahead. as you get used to it, start going faster while still looking ahead.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

When I was around 20 F2L, I was perfecting my intuitive algs, by this I mean I was figuring out nice finger tricks. Once you hit 15ish F2l times, I suggest you start training to look ahead.

 

[Athefre]

I don't have any suggestions since I have normal arms and hands. Maybe you could sort of "flick" the layers with your nub...

 

[MistArts]

Go slow and make sure you can do all the case intuitively and without looking so you can look for the pieces of the next slot and so on.

 

[ShintaKunX]

Well i guess most of this is expected answers. I found out that I always forget that order of colors so not only do i need to look for a pair and intuitive think of a way to solve it but i need to remember which orders the colors are. But besides that tahnks for all of your help.

And i mean nub as in noob I dont had a nub for a hand D:

 

[shelley]

If you keep forgetting colors, I suggest you get in the habit of always starting with the same color for the cross, and learning your color scheme. I always start with a white cross, so when I search for F2L pairs, I know I'm always looking for white corners. Since I'm only focusing on spotting one color, I don't have to think about color ordering at all.

 

[blgentry]

I'm probably in the same ballpark as you are with my F2L. The only wild variations I get are either:

A) I lose concentration and make mistakes.
B) I get really lucky and pairs are made in the U layer allowing easy, fast insertions.

The real variation for me, frankly, is whether or not I have to work for it. For example if most, or all, of my pairs are in the U layer (but not already made), then F2L is smooth and fast for me. The more I have to pull the pieces from the first or second layer, into the U layer in order to join them up, the more I have to look, and therefor, the slower I am. Look ahead should fix this, but I'm not very good at it yet, thus the variation in my F2L times.

I'm not sure that this will help you at all; it's just my observations about what trips me up and the things I need to work on, and we have similar F2L times.

Brian.

 

[shadowpartner]

ur F2L is like mine,inconsistent,i sub 30 on good days(whole cube solve) and sub 50 on bad days,sumtimes even sub 1.

WEIRD

 

[Winston]

Maybe you could try to do slower insertions even if you spot obvious F2L pairs, allowing for more time to look ahead. That's better than slotting in the pair with lightning speed without any looking ahead and then spending the next few seconds searching for another pair. Well, that's just how I do it, hope it helps. As for consistency, practice is really the best way to solve that problem.

 

[Escher]

Also... when looking for an edge, you can derive where it is relatively easily - if there are 2 orange stickers facing up on the top layer, and you can see that the one closest to you has a white sticker on the front, and the orange and blue pair is already in, the furthest one is definitely the orange/green edge. i use stuff like that all the time so that i dont have to turn the cube or use lots of U/U's. I use something similar to work out whether the edge i need is in one of the wrong or right f2l slots already.

 

[Laurentius]

Also... when looking for an edge, you can derive where it is relatively easily - if there are 2 orange stickers facing up on the top layer, and you can see that the one closest to you has a white sticker on the front, and the orange and blue pair is already in, the furthest one is definitely the orange/green edge. i use stuff like that all the time so that i dont have to turn the cube or use lots of U/U's. I use something similar to work out whether the edge i need is in one of the wrong or right f2l slots already.

Riiiight.. And what color is up/front? :rolleyes:

 

[Escher]

sorrrrry... i completely forgot... i have yellow on bottom, which will confuse everybody. normal colour scheme. oops.

 

[ShintaKunX]

I keep my colors standard yellow top white bottom. I think my problem is too much cube rotations. When i solve a slot i solve it then sometimes turn the cube y y' (i think lol) and i heard ur suppose to keep it steady. I think finger tricks will help me concentrate on looking ahead. Besides that I watch Harris Chans f2l cause hes godly

 

[Neutrals01]

I also suk in f2l... average 20 secs but sometimes unlucky get up to 27~29 secs... but if lucky will get down to 12~15 secs. Looking for pairs is ok for me, but I have to rotate the cube to make a smooth turn.. weak with my F/F'/B/B' turns.. so end up like 10~12 cube rotations per solve..