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Extensive Letter Pair List (PAO-ish + open source)

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I can't work out how to request this through the app. Do I have to access it through a desktop?
No idea how it works on mobile. On a desktop you can click on the "comment only" at the top left and request edit access.

I really like this but I wish they would extend it to include fictional characters.
http://peoplebyinitials.com
That's what I was wishing the whole time I made my list.

Here are some other useful resources:
http://www.morewords.com/
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_name
http://nounsstarting.com/
http://verbs1.com/
http://adjectivesstarting.com/

I also looked up lists of characters from big shows (like the simpsons)
 

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No idea how it works on mobile. On a desktop you can click on the "comment only" at the top left and request edit access.


That's what I was wishing the whole time I made my list.

Here are some other useful resources:
http://www.morewords.com/
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_name
http://nounsstarting.com/
http://verbs1.com/
http://adjectivesstarting.com/

I also looked up lists of characters from big shows (like the simpsons)
I'm beginning to wish that I knew more than 1 Pokemon.
 

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It helps to be familiar with the word you're using, but it's not necessary.

I use a few pokemon and people/characters I'd never heard of.
I will occasionally use a famous person I don't know well but I'll still have an image of them even if it's inaccurate. I find that we tend to have good images for fictional characters so it would be great to have a version of peoplebyinitials.com for that. I emailed them last night.
 

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That's a bit of a problem, inherent to the whole idea of letter pairs I guess.

That's why I am using a deterministic approach when encoding letter-pairs with words and vice versa. In my images table, it's always first and third letters in a word that matters, with very rare exceptions. I guess the encoding system is very language-specific. For Russian, it's generally easy to find words using first-third rule, as all words are more or less equally spreaded relative to different 1st-3rd letters.
 

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That's why I am using a deterministic approach when encoding letter-pairs with words and vice versa. In my images table, it's always first and third letters in a word that matters, with very rare exceptions. I guess the encoding system is very language-specific. For Russian, it's generally easy to find words using first-third rule, as all words are more or less equally spreaded relative to different 1st-3rd letters.
That's a good idea. But there are some letters in English that you really can't do that with.
For Q, I struggled to find usable words that were even remotely related to the letter pair.

Still, I think the only difference it makes is how hard it is to learn your pairs. Once you know them all and use them regularly, it doesn't matter if "KQ = puppy" because it will be an automatic association in your head.
 

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That's a good idea. But there are some letters in English that you really can't do that with.
For Q, I struggled to find usable words that were even remotely related to the letter pair.

Still, I think the only difference it makes is how hard it is to learn your pairs. Once you know them all and use them regularly, it doesn't matter if "KQ = puppy" because it will be an automatic association in your head.
When learning audio I used TH for Q and I now use it in images too. I also use SH for X and NG for H (at the end of a word). It gives more options.
 

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This is awesome! I haven't worked on 3bld in months but I was surprised how important a ready-to-go list is vs. trying to make things up on the fly. Bookmarked and I may have a few to contribute from my sheet once I get around to taking a good look.
 

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Still, I think the only difference it makes is how hard it is to learn your pairs. Once you know them all and use them regularly, it doesn't matter if "KQ = puppy" because it will be an automatic association in your head.
Yeah I totally agree with this. As long as the association is strong, in the end it doesn't matter how logically or systematically it was arrived at. It's also important that the images are distinct so they are less likely to get mixed up.
 
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ok what about ideas?
those count as objects right?

ex: xenophobia for XB
 
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lucarubik

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ussing speffz is a pain, my language has 29 letters, im not ussing the first 23, im ussing all, QB is kebab for me
*oh woops XB is fabrik for me, a night club, F and X are the same sticker, but honestly i only use F, they are not alike but both are pretty uncommon
 
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ussing speffz is a pain, my language has 29 letters, im not ussing the first 23, im ussing all, QB is kebab for me
So you assign multiple letters to a sticker?

Also, I noticed that there's an option for double letters (eg-JJ). When do people ever use two of the same letter? I know I never do.
 
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So you assign multiple letters to a sticker?
v/w q/k f/x n/ñ y/ll j/g and h/ch, so VQ is wookie for me, from star wars
drowings from tv shows and stuff are way better becouse you know they are not human, they have this drowing style, this colors, they are way more unique, best options imo, i use pokemon and league of legends characters with great success
 
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Why not just use the other letter for that piece? That way you can reuse your corner image pairs instead of coming up with a new word. For example, UB is C and BU is G, so I memo an UB flip with CG or GC instead of CC or GG
It makes it easier to recall it as a flip so there's no risk of trying to solve each letter by accident.
 
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It makes it easier to recall it as a flip so there's no risk of trying to solve each letter by accident.
ure gonna get used to it anyway, if its single bld you better memo visually, if its multi bld you dont need to make it easier to recall, just take two extra seconds till you get used to it, so not really a good idea, when i have R as last corner and R as first edge I just picture a big capital R, just couse im too lazy to make letter pairs for only those particular cases, also if i did 4 or 5 bld (first i wouldh ave to buy a 4x or a 5x) i would use numbers for that new stickers, negative for one direction positive for the other, since all my letters are already in use
 

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ure gonna get used to it anyway, if its single bld you better memo visually, if its multi bld you dont need to make it easier to recall, just take two extra seconds till you get used to it, so not really a good idea, when i have R as last corner and R as first edge I just picture a big capital R, just couse im too lazy to make letter pairs for only those particular cases, also if i did 4 or 5 bld (first i wouldh ave to buy a 4x or a 5x) i would use numbers for that new stickers, negative for one direction positive for the other, since all my letters are already in use
I memo corners and edges completely separately and if I have a single letter I use a superhero.
 
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