Events to remove

Um... Yeah, I know this sounds like a really stupid idea, and i'll probably get a TON of smack for it, but it is something to consider (not that it's WORTH considering, you can decide that for yourself, but it's definitely a THING to consider). With this idea, I am advocating for keeping feet:

Has anyone ever considered the idea of foot-washing stations in preparation for the foot event? I don't think that would be a terrible idea. How to set them up? Clueless. But if they could be set up, I think it would definitely increase the popularity of feet solving. Also, I liked the idea from that one guy (I don't remember who it was) who said that the scramblers should be able to use gloves. That's a great idea. If the event is popular for spectators, as Mr. Hughey argues, and everyone else thinks it's unpopular among cubers because it's unsanitary and silly and stupid, well, the silly and stupid part are just your opinions, and it's near impossible to change the general cubing community's opinion on the subject, but it's definitely far from impossible to make the event more sanitary.

And I agree with Mr. Hughey. Spectators are important. Personally, I think taking away from spectators takes A LOT away from the thing that is being spectated. Taking away from spectators would turn cubing into something like table tennis. There's not too many spectators for table tennis (except for huge comps, like WTTC and Olympics). That makes a whole lot of people think it should be taken out of the Olympics, while the people who actually play it seriously (like me :p) would be very disgruntled at the idea of removing it from the Olympics because it's an incredible game that actually requires lots of skill and fantastic neural motor connections, just like many other sports in the Olympics. From my POV (that is, a player's POV), I'd say that people don't like the sport because they haven't played enough to learn about how much skill is actually necessary to play table tennis, especially at the professional level. It's absolutely insane. Of course it looks easy if you don't know much about the sport, but if you were to try to play against someone who's serious about the sport, you'd probably get ripped apart, getting one courtesy point from your opponent if they're even willing to do so.

To complete the comparison, because the people who spectate feet, 4x4 bld, & 5x5 bld look at the events and can see very clearly (unlike in table tennis) that it actually requires skill to do feet solves quickly or bigcubebld quickly/accurately, and we all know (some from experience, some from a spectator's point of a view) that it actually requires skill gives even more of reason to keep the events in speedcubing competitions than reason to keep table tennis in the Olympics. Not only that, but spectators also watch it because, if you're an outsider, what are the chances that you'll get to watch someone solve a 4x4 or 5x5 bld in front of your very eyes in real life? Nobody does it, and it looks like a cool, rare, peculiar, mysterious skill requiring unfathomable intellect to the completely uninformed outsider. Spectators really do keep things interesting (because if nobody's interested, it's not interesting) and add a lot to competitions instead of making all speedcubers look like nerds that get together and do speedcubing things with other speedcubers without showing the general public because they're not interested. I think that to take away feet/4x4bld/5x5bld would only kind of help to seclude ourselves from the general public. IMHO, it's kind of pointless to have a WR in any event if nobody except other people who do the event know about it. (That last sentence wasn't meant to be a bashing, nor was it meant to be generally true. That statement actually has a ton of exceptions to it purely due the fact that it's just my measly opinion, and many others think differently, so please don't give me smack for saying that. That's why the key phrase there is "IMHO".)

[off topic]On that note, why isn't there more public advertisement for speedcubing competitions? We should figure out how to get that done. That'd be awesome to see more people at more competitions.[/off topic]

And also, no. I'm not saying we should turn speedcubing into an actual spectator sport to make events more popular. That would be totally irrelevant. After reading this thread, it seems like there are people who assume that that is what I'm trying to get at. I'm just making a comparison. It's probably a bad comparison, but, hey, I'm trying. I was never too good at writing essays and the like in English class.

There's my two cents. I'm ready for any smack coming my way.

EDIT: On the topic of magic/master magic, I'm on the fence about getting rid of them. I personally don't care for them, and I think it's a bit of a pointless event, like many other people have expressed on this thread, but I do wonder what that would do for all the people who actually work hard on magic/master magic. I'd hate to have all that practice time suddenly made worthless. That's kind of cruel.

(I'll probably get more smack for my edit than the rest of my post, lol.)
 
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Magic & Master Magic. They are not twisty puzzles. If they weren't made by Rubik then they wouldn't have become official events in the 1st place.
They should either be removed or add every Rubik product that can be made into an event.
 
I think that if anything, magic and master magic should be the first to go (Sorry Zach :P). 3x3 feet may be unpopular, but it is still interesting. It's actually a lot like OH solving, because you're solving the 3x3 in a way that you normally wouldn't solve it.

The problem with the magics is that they're not really scrambled, so I'm not really sure if it should be considered a puzzle in the same way as every other twisty puzzle. I personally think that clock is a bit silly, but it's a puzzle that you actually scramble instead of just repeating the same exact flips every time. Also, if people practice the same thing over and over with magic, why not make an event for every single PLL?
 
magic for sure
master magic aswell
feet im ok with cause it is a challenge and its a different way of solving like OH
maybe 7x7 and 6x6 cause then there would be more time for other events like another round of 3x3 or another puzzle
 
insane569 said:
maybe 7x7 and 6x6 cause then there would be more time for other events like another round of 3x3 or another puzzle
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I disagree with this. 6x6 and 7x7 don't take long at all, as long as you have fairly strict cutoffs. And even if you figure they would take too long with strict cutoffs, no one is forcing you to have 6x6 and 7x7 at your competition anyway. The amount of time an event takes isn't quite a good enough reason to remove it all together.

Although, when larger cubes like the 8x8 and 9x9 are widely available, I really don't think they should be official events. You have to draw the limit somewhere, unless many people can do 8x8 in under 5 minutes.
 
I can't say I see the point in taking away events. Especially if the organizers of the competitions are the ones to pick the events involved, it doesn't take away their time if they don't add the event. Plus, it's not like adding events requires a large investment of time and energy to keep track of, especially if the event is unpopular and will rarely be needed to have upkeep. As I see it, the only reason to get rid of an event, or to want an event away, would be because it doesn't meet requirements of what someone defines as speedsolving, such as the magics, or dislike the idea, such as feet. However, I don't see these as a problem for the reason that the magics' premise can be altered to where the puzzle is scrambled and then solved from that state. As for the feet, it's not as if you're made to take part in the event, or even watch it. Overall, I don't think "I dislike event ___. Therefore, no should be able to compete in it" is a valid argument. That being said, I can understand time limits on events and wasting the time of delegates, yet with strict rules on those limits, this shouldn't be a problem.
 
I think we should remove the 3x3x3 speedsolve. The solves are too fast to be interesting and it doesn't take much skill at all. Plus, too many people want to compete in it, to the point where it takes up a large amount of time at most competitions. Without this event we would be able to spend much more time on the more interesting and worthwhile events.
 
We should ask people to vote on the WCA website. Notify every single cubing forum about which event they would like to take out.
 
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