Edison/Joy vs C4Y DIYS..?

[wongxiao]

So I recently got three Type Ds from Cube4You, and got lucky--one of them is the old Type D. It is very fast, and a wonderful cube (dropped my times over 10s compared to the highly broken in, sanded, and lubed Rubik's store-bought), but contrary to what I've read, it does pop quite a bit, even at close to maximum tension (as many agree that old Type Ds seldom pop, I'm guessing this is just because I'm a newbie).

In any case, my Type D is the only cube I have (the other two were gifts), and I'm definitely looking to expand my collection. However, I can't really do this all at once.

I saw PestVic's video on the Type A-II C4Y kit, and it looks like an impressive cube. The lighter, hollower pieces are attractive as well. However, I've also heard many great things about the Joycube, and the transparent model Tribox is selling is very elegant, IMHO. I would get it, except for that doing so would preclude the possibility of my also purchasing an old Type A core to replace my old Type D core.

So... which would you recommend? Get a Type A-II plus an extra Type A core, or get a Joycube?

My record time is 49.37, so I'm certainly not pulling out blazingly fast solves, but at the same time I'd like to have a cube that is itself capable of sub-20 solves in more capable hands. Also, although I've heard that Joycubes are great OH cubes, and I may OH in the future, I am currently only concerned with cube speed/looseness, locking, tolerance, and pop tendency.

 

[PCwizCube]

but contrary to what I've read, it does pop quite a bit, even at close to maximum tension (as many agree that old Type Ds seldom pop, I'm guessing this is just because I'm a newbie).

It pops a lot? I'm surprised. Maybe your turning style is too aggressive. Oh I just noticed you're using a Type D core.... not surprising. It doesn't pop as much with the old Type A core because your can get the screws farther in in the old Type A core.

I saw PestVic's video on the Type A-II C4Y kit, and it looks like an impressive cube. The lighter, hollower pieces are attractive as well.

Hold on a second. Pestvic's review was on the New Type A 2nd Model, not the Type A-II (are you talking about this video?). They sound similar but the New Type A 2nd Model came out like last year. It was a very good cube but unfortunately it is not sold anymore.

Type A II. When you first get the cube it is horrible. People have said that if you sand the ridges a little bit to smooth them out the cube becomes excellent.
This thread says how people say their Type A II is excellent, this thread and this thread say it's garbage.

However, I've also heard many great things about the Joycube, and the transparent model Tribox is selling is very elegant, IMHO. I would get it, except for that doing so would preclude the possibility of my also purchasing an old Type A core to replace my old Type D core.

Yeah the Joy cubes recently became available world wide, so not too many people have it. And yes lots of people say it's good for OH.

This is my information on the Type D cube. I own an old Type D cube with an old Type A core, and it's EXCELLENT. But if you just use the Type D core, the cube is loose, even at the tightest tension. The cube is okay, but the loosiness gets annoying. When you switch it to an old Type A core, the cube becomes much better. The cube becomes much more stable, and cuts corners very well. My cube is also EXTREMELY smooth. Like it feels like there is almost no friction when you rotate one of the layers. This makes the cube turn very quitely (people say Type D cube is loud? :confused

 

[crazyasianskills]

Edison is better for 2 hands I hear. Type C is good too. Keep searching there are many possibilities.

 

[Guoguodi]

I have three Joy Cubes ordered from tribox. I would say that after tuning them, they are decent cubes, but a little overrated. They are actually quite prone to explosive pops as well. I would instead spend a little more and get the Japanese Speedcubing Kit (I know, it's expensive), as it's very similar to the 2006 Rubiks.com DIY mold, one of the best black cubes ever.

 

[n00bcubix]

Agreed with Guoguodi, after owning a joy cube, i've never gotten a SMALL pop, with only one piece or something, it was mainly explosive pops. I would get a JAPANESE diy with a type a core, makes it pretty decent. Or a type a which i use myself

 

[*LukeMayn*]

Rubik's cube fan: I used to be with you on this whole "D+A FTW" thing, but I have an edison cubies+A insides and it rocks my socks

 

[Neroflux]

rubik's cube fan: do you own an A-II, joy or edison besides having read a thousand threads?

 

[PCwizCube]

Rubik's cube fan: I used to be with you on this whole "D+A FTW" thing, but I have an edison cubies+A insides and it rocks my socks

Oh well I don't have an Edison cube ....

rubik's cube fan: do you own an A-II, joy or edison besides having read a thousand threads?

No, I don't. The only DIYs I have are old A, C, D, and E. Is that a problem? Because I'm stating where I got the information from, sort of just pointing out to new comers that they should use the search function.... (but it a nice way )

 

[wongxiao]

Very interesting... I think I'll be getting a Japanese DIY sometime. I seem to remember reading that they're available at Toys-R-Us? Is this true?

I was actually referring to PestVic's video comparing the old and new types, but I believe its the same cube. I guess I'll be getting the New Type A Second Model, plus an old (or even new) Type A core, and I'll probably pick up a Japanese DIY Kit if its available locally (but I mean cmon I'm in Reno lol).

In any case, I'll pick up maybe 4 or so Type A cores, so when I get a Joycube and accompanying Edison cube, I'll hybrid it as per LukeMayn's advice.

And I guess I'll just have to work on my technique as far as pops go... It's actually not even so much "popping" as it is lining up correctly and being loose enough to fall out. That said, the pink Type D I got for my friend feels even looser and seldom pops... then again, I don't think I'm as aggressive with it...ah well lol.

 

[Neroflux]

jap cube + a core + normal type a edges = a very reliable cube. not those kind of 'omg this ish liek the best cube in da world i won't trade it for a prototype v 11'. but a reliable cube.

 

[*LukeMayn*]

Love how you phrased that