PedroSabioni
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Has anyone ever tried this? Use only moves like U2, M2, R2, Rw2 to scramble and solve the cube.
Challenge: scramble and solve using only double moves
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Dapianokid
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This severely limits the group of states you can solve/scramble to. Adding M2 to the mix is just like doing R2 L2...
You can't misorient the corners or edges, and the permutational possibilities are extremely limited.
You can't misorient the corners or edges, and the permutational possibilities are extremely limited.
Ollie
Legend
Breandan Vallance challenged some of us to scramble and solve using only Uw and M, tis pretty fun. Got a decent method for it as well x)
PedroSabioni
Regular
Yeah, for sure, but there still is a lot of possible combinations and it is pretty difficult to solve! I haven't succeeded yet
Kirjava
Colourful
As far as restricted movegroup solving goes, this is very easy.
Try <U,r>
Try <U,r>
Tim Major
Platinum Member
Pretty sure a good Roux solver would average very fast with this. I can consistently sub 10 with CFOP for this, but Roux is more suited to this subset.
<M,Uw> was posted in random discussion thread ages ago. That's a more fun one.
<M,Uw> was posted in random discussion thread ages ago. That's a more fun one.
stoic
Premium Member
Stefan
Legend
Which one do you mean? I suspect Kirjava's and that you're thinking r=M instead of r=Rw which he probably meant.
Tim Major
Platinum Member
OP's subset. Why would you suspect Kirjava's? I didn't quote his, so wouldn't you assume OP?
Kirjava
Colourful
I don't see why 'Roux' is more suited to that subset, I don't use either method when solving like that.
Stefan
Legend
Because for the OP's subset (double moves) I don't see how you would do CFOP at all, let alone average sub10 with it, and because I don't see the connection to Roux. Are you just doing <U2, M2, R2, Rw2> or are you really doing his "double moves [...] like U2, M2, R2, Rw2"?
Edit: Ok you can't possibly mean <U2, M2, R2, Rw2>, as I just tried that and had trouble scrambling at all
Can you describe your CFOP method and why you think Roux is better for it?
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PedroSabioni
Regular
And no one is actually trying to solve the cube the way I proposed 
Scrambled, it should look something like the forum's logo: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/images/ss-logo1.png
Scrambled, it should look something like the forum's logo: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/images/ss-logo1.png
Stefan
Legend
And no one is actually trying to solve the cube the way I proposed
1. Tim is no one?
2. This is old stuff, so people might just not want to do it again. If qqtimer has a scrambler for it, you may assume it has been done already.
Tim Major
Platinum Member
I misread entirely. Trying double turns now. It's much harder. I managed to solve it but not fast at all.
PedroSabioni
Regular
Yeah, I was like "how is he applying CFOP and Roux concepts to this?"
Stefan
Legend
What did you read?
Tim Major
Platinum Member
First I read it as <R,M,Rw,U> hence my Roux suggestion. I only skimmed.
Then I skimmed your post and thought <R2,U2,M2,Rw2> but quickly realised this could NOT be the case (impossible to get over 5 seconds with these without trying to)
Finally, I reread your post properly this time and understood.
Moral of the story, don't skim read when tired.
Kirjava
Colourful
And no one is actually trying to solve the cube the way I proposed
People have been doing it for ages.
Just did an avg5 for you though - (9.96), (6.02), 9.85, 7.07, 7.85 = 8.26 avg5
Tim Major
Platinum Member
I'm doing Corners first with all double turns. So far I have gotten a couple of smooth sub 10s but I'm averaging 30+. When I get to spam R2 U2 R2 and M2 U2 M2 it's easy enough, but sometimes I get to L4E and they're all in bad places. What are you doing Kir? Editing to say I just quit on a solve. Was going for over 2 minutes with bad cases and I simply didn't manage. This is hard, and doing corners first seems very luck based. I tried doing an average. 9.36, 26.35, DNF, 7.54, DNF. This is hard O_O
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PedroSabioni
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Is there a name for it? What are the solving steps?
