tom0989123
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Hi my 3x3pb is 19.796 seconds and my average is 30 seconds. I need some help getting faster.
[Member Intro] Busy getting my average down to sub 20
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Cuban_Cuber
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Hello
What method do you use?
What method do you use?
Owen Morrison
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Hi
tom0989123
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I use CFOB
ive watched a hand full of J Perms vids
CFOB is the only fast way I fully under stand
ive watched a hand full of J Perms vids
CFOB is the only fast way I fully under stand
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What is the B in CFOB? I only know of CFOP, not CFOB.
tom0989123
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what should I learn next?
Cuban_Cuber
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I would recommend learning full PLL followed by full OLL if you havent already, and then learn about advanced F2L. You should also try to improve your recognition and look ahead as you're learning more algorithms.
Once you've become proficient at F2L, OLL, and PLL, you could look into some more advanced algorithm sets, but I think practice is more important.
If you do end up wanting to learn more algorithms, I recommend you watch JPerms video on which sets are worth learning. I think it's very informative and easy to understand.
But take all of this with a grain of salt. This is just my opinion and how I'm improving.
Good luck
Owen Morrison
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learning efficient and intuitive F2L solutions is way more important than OLL
Cuban_Cuber
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You should not be trying to present your opinion as fact.
However, this could also work. It really just depends on what they're already good at and what they want to prioritize.
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Owen Morrison
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Okay bro
tom0989123
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thanks I know Advanced F2L and I lernt that by watching J perms video all readdy and I will now try to lern full OLLI would recommend learning full PLL followed by full OLL if you havent already, and then learn about advanced F2L. You should also try to improve your recognition and look ahead as you're learning more algorithms.
Once you've become proficient at F2L, OLL, and PLL, you could look into some more advanced algorithm sets, but I think practice is more important.
If you do end up wanting to learn more algorithms, I recommend you watch JPerms video on which sets are worth learning. I think it's very informative and easy to understand.
But take all of this with a grain of salt. This is just my opinion and how I'm improving.
Good luck
I think it will take me quite a long time thoe.
Owen Morrison
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Nah you don't need full OLL until you are sub 15. Watch some walkthrough solves to make sure that your f2l is good and then work on lookahead.
tom0989123
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ok I will do that first
tom0989123
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what do you mean?
You should not be trying to present your opinion as fact.
tom0989123
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isnt this speedsolving thing ment to be help full?
Eli Apperson
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If your opinion is factual, as Owen's was, why shouldn't you?
The advice he gave was very helpful.
OreKehStrah
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What they stated was true though. Better F2L will save more time than full OLL vs good 2Look OLL. You can look at measured data for this as well as use simple logic to convince yourself that it is true. There are more pieces/steps within solving F2L vs OLL and it is a greater portion of solve time. After all, good 2 look OLL is just using one long alg for an OLL case.
With that said, I would personally suggest learning full OLL and working on F2L. Working on multiple things is not nearly as difficult as it seems.
Take some time and work on learning a set of algs, then take a break and work on something else like F2L for a small period of time, then return to the algs you were learning and see how many you remember and practice them, then repeat.
You could try learning OLL on a virtual cube as well. I suggest using TrainYu. I use it to learn ZBLL pretty easily and highly recommend people try it.
tom0989123
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hoo is going to the speed cubing compatition on the 19th cos im going
tom0989123
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I might se one of you there
