Bigcube H- and Z- PLLS

[Kynit]

What algs do most people use for the M-heavy PLLs? I really hate trying to do Z-perms on my 5x5. The 2-gen algs look long, but are they worth it anyway?

 

[freshcuber]

If you don't want to learn the 2-gen and can't do the M turns then do U perm followed by another U perm.

 

[EricReese]

The RU algs are good. I personally use the MU ones on 4x4 because I am good at the moves on my Dayan. But I used to use the RU Z perm in 2h but then switched. They are fine algs.

 

[LewisJ]

The 2gen zperm really just turns into a flurry of fun triggers once you break it down and learn it. It's not bad at all.

 

[RyanReese09]

2gen for 4x4x4, 6x6x6, and up.

My 5x5x5 is debatable, I switch. Depending on how I'm holding it, I'll do either. I find M slightly faster (H perm only) because 2gen locks up on the sides of hte corners sometimes.

 

[amostay2004]

lol at everyone implying MU isn't 2gen =p

 

[ASH]

Or do the optimal H: R'L' U2 RL y RL U2 R'L' (execution from the side makes it even fast on 3x3)
BTW: The 2-gen (<R,U>) H isn't that long (but I don't like it that much).

Dude, simply don't pussy around and learn the algs!

Greetings,

Axel

 

[Anthony]

Dude, simply don't pussy around and learn the algs!

The 2gen zperm really just turns into a flurry of fun triggers once you break it down and learn it. It's not bad at all.

Yeah, it's just a bunch of triggers and can be done really quickly.
Just learn it, it's totally worth it.

U2′RURU’RU2RU’R'U’RUR’U'R’URU’RU’RURU’R'U’R'U’RU’R

 

[IamWEB]

I think I'll stick with the MU alg for 4x4x4.

But OH...

 

[qqwref]

I like the LR U2 L'R' H-perm, and the Dan Knights Z-perm (the one that starts with x' RU'R'UD). The fast 2-gen ones just cause tons of lockups when I try them on bigcubes.

 

[LewisJ]

Yeah, it's just a bunch of triggers and can be done really quickly.
Just learn it, it's totally worth it.

U2′RURU’RU2RU’R'U’RUR’U'R’URU’RU’RURU’R'U’R'U’RU’R

lol stryker z

 

[Zane_C]

Interesting, a tutorial on big cube H and Z PLLs. Oh wait...

Anyway, here's my approach:
Z-perm: U R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R' U for an size cube.
H-perm: M2 U' M2 U2' M2 U' M2 for 4x4, for any larger cube I use R2 U2 R U2 R2 U2 R2 U2 R U2 R2.

 

[Kynit]

lol at everyone implying MU isn't 2gen =p

Oops! I meant RU 2gen, but I think we all got that.

I like the LR U2 L'R' H-perm, and the Dan Knights Z-perm (the one that starts with x' RU'R'UD). The fast 2-gen ones just cause tons of lockups when I try them on bigcubes.

Or do the optimal H: R'L' U2 RL y RL U2 R'L' (execution from the side makes it even fast on 3x3)

I didn't even know about the optimal H! That looks nice.

I've glanced at the Dan Knights Z before but I wasn't sure about it. I think I'm switching to that.

Interesting, a tutorial on big cube H and Z PLLs. Oh wait...

I don't understand.

 

[RyanReese09]

I'm assuming Zane is commenting on the fact the thread title has no question mark, thus insinuating this should be a tutorial thread, but it isn't.