Belief in evolution?

[Methuselah96]

My condolences.

What do those two things have to do with each other?

I guess it doesn't directly have to do with evolution, but it does have to do with the origin of human beings. I'm basically asking how evolution started (how did the process begin).

 

[Phillip1847]

My condolences.

Lol
I accept evolution as true.
However, the idea that the earth revolves around the sun is absolutely ridiculous. Earth clearly revolves around Jupiter(Zeus).

 

[Methuselah96]

Lol
I accept evolution as true.
However, the idea that the earth revolves around the sun is absolutely ridiculous. Earth clearly revolves around Jupiter(Zeus).

I always got a kick out of the Flat Earth Society.

 

[kcl]

For me, "faith" is less clear than "belief", so I think your attempt to clarify achieved the opposite.



My condolences.

This is uncalled for. This forum is not meant for people like you to go around bashing religion, it's for speedcubing. Let's try and keep it that way.

Anyway, I'm Christian but I still believe in evolution. Believe it or not science and religion CAN get along.

In my opinion, everything evolves to some extent. Look at cars from the 80's, then take a look at models from this year. Aside from having four wheels and windows, they look almost nothing alike. Same goes for computers, or cell phones, and yes, even living things in my opinion.

That's just my stance on this, I don't need to argue for it or argue against someone else.

 

[Methuselah96]

This is uncalled for. This forum is not meant for people like you to go around bashing religion, it's for speedcubing. Let's try and keep it that way.

Anyway, I'm Christian but I still believe in evolution. Believe it or not science and religion CAN get along.

In my opinion, everything evolves to some extent. Look at cars from the 80's, then take a look at models from this year. Aside from having four wheels and windows, they look almost nothing alike. Same goes for computers, or cell phones, and yes, even living things in my opinion.

That's just my stance on this, I don't need to argue for it or argue against someone else.

This is the off-topic forum so maybe we can get a little more rowdy here and not talk about just speedcubing. anyway, I completely agree that Christians can believe in evolution and still be Christians, but I'm just wondering: do you believe that Adam and Eve were real people and how did that work into the evolutionary process? (I'm not trying to argue I'm just curious in your beliefs.)

 

[Stefan]

This is uncalled for. This forum is not meant for people like you to go around bashing religion, it's for speedcubing.

First of all, I suggest you take a dictionary and look up the meaning of "off-topic".

Secondly, I like Nathan and that is simply honestly how I feel, and I believe I expressed it in a rather civilized manner. How is that "bashing"?

Thirdly, how is it worse than "I always got a kick out of", with which you apparently have no problem whatsoever at all? (I'm really very interested in your answer to this)

 

[kcl]

First of all, I suggest you take a dictionary and look up the meaning of "off-topic".

Secondly, I like Nathan and that is simply honestly how I feel, and I believe I expressed it in a rather civilized manner. How is that "bashing"?

Thirdly, how is it worse than "I always got a kick out of", with which you apparently have no problem whatsoever at all? (I'm really very interested in your answer to this)

Saying "My condolences" to someone's personal values and beliefs is like a slap in the face. It's just plain rude, which is why I used the term "bashing".

When did you ever say you got a kick out of a religion here?

 

[Methuselah96]

I always got a kick out of the Flat Earth Society.

Saying "My condolences" to someone's personal values and beliefs is like a slap in the face. It's just plain rude, which is why I used the term "bashing".

When did you ever say you got a kick out of a religion here?

I said it. I probably shouldn't have since some people actually do believe this and it's not nice to ridicule somebody on their beliefs. I would argue that a lot of their theories are rather far-fetched, but then again Christianity probably sounds far-fetched to other people as well.

 

[Phillip1847]

I always got a kick out of the Flat Earth Society.

...so?

This is uncalled for.

"My condolences" is uncalled for?....
That is 'going around and bashing religion'?
huh.

 

[Rocky0701]

...so?

"My condolences" is uncalled for?....
That is 'going around and bashing religion'?
huh.

While i agree that what Stefan said was rude, it was not uncalled for or bashing. If someone is going to post in a thread like this, they should expect people to argue/be rude, this whole thread is just asking for a huge debate or argument to break out.

 

[Phillip1847]

While i agree that what Stefan said was rude, it was not uncalled for or bashing. If someone is going to post in a thread like this, they should expect people to argue/be rude, this whole thread is just asking for a huge debate or argument to break out.

I agree. I'm saying its not bashing, hence the fail-quotes & question marks. Slightly rude, but as you said, this is a trap for a flame war, even though it should be.

 

[Divineskulls]

I believe that a series of increasingly tiny mice have been furnishing this world all out of a thin rubber material that they secrete out of their fingertips. I deserve time to tell everyone else they're wrong, a cookie, and a special sticker.

 

[Rocky0701]

I believe that a series of increasingly tiny mice have been furnishing this world all out of a thin rubber material that they secrete out of their fingertips. I deserve time to tell everyone else they're wrong, a cookie, and a special sticker.

I now have a completely new view on life.

 

[DeeDubb]

Saying "my condolences" about someone's beliefs is sort of tongue-in-cheek playfully condescending. However, it depends entirely on your relationship with the person. If it's someone you don't know, then it should be taken offensively by the recipient. Basically you are telling them that their entire belief system is worthy of sorrow and pity. You tell someone "my condolences" when their grandmother dies, or they are diagnosed with a serious illness. Equating something that is believed strongly by someone to condolence-worthy events is absolutely insulting.

However, if it's someone you have a friendly relationship with, then sure, anything goes.

 

[Jaycee]

There was a Religion Thread here in the OT section a few years ago. I spent one night reading every post, and IIRC it had more than 600 posts. It was civil for the most part; but unfortunately the thread was closed. Shame.

Edit: I know evolution doesn't have to deal with religion but this thread sort of went that direction.

Also: Found it! Reached 586 posts in less than 3 weeks and then was closed.

 

[Cubeologist]

I don't "believe" in evolution. You don't have to believe or have faith in something for which there is proof or evidence. On the same note, I do not believe in gravity or a heliocentric solar system either, I just assume that they are truthful because that is what the evidence suggests.

 

[Dene]

What do you mean?

To be honest I find it hard to put into words what I want to express, because saying "I believe in evolution" is completely nonsensical in a Wittgenstein-ian kind of way.

 

[~Adam~]

My first question: if evolution is true, how did matter come into existence?

I know it has already been pointed out that this question doesn't deal with evolution but you may like to know that the sum of energy in the universe is ZERO.

That means that matter wasn't magicked into existence but just the other half of a balanced equation.

 

[Consider]

I don't "believe" in evolution. You don't have to believe or have faith in something for which there is proof or evidence. On the same note, I do not believe in gravity or a heliocentric solar system either, I just assume that they are truthful because that is what the evidence suggests.

well said, but i think that neodarwinism is the only theory frequently asked for being believed !

“Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion—a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. I am an ardent evolutionist and an ex-Christian, but I must admit in this one complaint… the literalists [i.e., creationists] are absolutely right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.”
Michael Ruse, professor of history and philosophy and author of The Darwinian Revolution (1979), Darwinism Defended (1982), and Taking Darwin Seriously (1986)

 

[WhatIsRubiks]

I am not trying to start a religious argument. I am just asking who believes in evolution. Also, I say "believe" because while there is a lot of evidence for it, it is still just a theory. A very realistic and convinces theory, but still just a theory.