Beginner's Guide to Choosing a Speedsolving Method

[Parity Nightmare]

Still its good if you want to catch on to a speedsolving method fast.
plus out of the top 20 best cubers (3x3) in the world, 18 use CFOP, 2 uses ROUX.
I think that explains it by itself.

 

[ProStar]

But it is one of the more boring and repetitive methods.

That's true. Roux and Petrus(haven't learned ZZ) are both more fun than CFOP imo

Still its good if you want to catch on to a speedsolving method fast.
plus out of the top 20 best cubers (3x3) in the world, 18 use CFOP, 2 uses ROUX.
I think that explains it by itself.

And in 1980s corners first was thought to be the best.

 

[Hazel]

plus out of the top 20 best cubers (3x3) in the world, 18 use CFOP, 2 uses ROUX.
I think that explains it by itself.

That isn't because CFOP is 'superior', it's because more people use CFOP (due to ease of transition from Beginner's), so naturally the chance of a top cuber using the method is high.
I guarantee that if the roles of the methods were switched, the majority of pros would use Roux, and I highly doubt the times they would be getting would be much slower (if slower at all) than the times they get today with CFOP.

 

[Etotheipi]

Still its good if you want to catch on to a speedsolving method fast.
plus out of the top 20 best cubers (3x3) in the world, 18 use CFOP, 2 uses ROUX.
I think that explains it by itself.

It doesn't. Waayyy to many people have said this and its not a valid argument.

 

[Parity Nightmare]

Ok yeah that does make sense.
But still then it would be the easiest to learn.

It doesn't. Waayyy to many people have said this and its not a valid argument.

Oh, a roux users defending that roux is great....
I mean it is great,
I just think for a beginner, CFOP is easier to learn because its similar from cfop

Also CFOP has more tutorials so its easier to learn.

 

[ProStar]

Also, for the record, I use CFOP. So I'm not just someone who uses Roux that is freaking out about how it doesn't get respect(I don't mean to say that Etotheipi or ImmolatedMarmoset are freaking out). After careful consideration, I chose CFOP(actually I chose CFOP then switched to CFCE then switched back to CFOP, but that's a long story ). I didn't choose CFOP because it was the "best" or most popular method, I chose it because it was best for me personally.

Oh, a roux users defending that roux is great....
I mean it is great,
I just think for a beginner, CFOP is easier to learn because its similar from cfop

Oh, a CFOP user defending that CFOP is great...

Ok yeah that does make sense.
But still then it would be the easiest to learn.

Oh, a roux users defending that roux is great....
I mean it is great,
I just think for a beginner, CFOP is easier to learn because its similar from cfop

Also CFOP has more tutorials so its easier to learn.

Very nice triple post.

 

[Owen Morrison]

Also, for the record, I use CFOP. So I'm not just someone who uses Roux that is freaking out about how it doesn't get respect(I don't mean to say that Etotheipi or ImmolatedMarmoset are freaking out). After careful consideration, I chose CFOP(actually I chose CFOP then switched to CFCE then switched back to CFOP, but that's a long story ). I didn't choose CFOP because it was the best or most popular method, I chose it because it was best for me personally.

Why did u give me an angry face then ;(

 

[ProStar]

Why did u give me an angry face then ;(

Here's why:

I would recommend CFOP. There is a reason nearly every pro uses it.

Edit: If you mean when I said "I didn't choose CFOP because it was the best or most popular method", I meant to put quotes around "best".

 

[Parity Nightmare]

Lol ProStar

 

[Owen Morrison]

Someone asks for a method to choose to help them understand the cube better, and then a post I sent WHICH I DID NOT MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE started a massive argument. It is mostly Roux users saying that we CFOP solvers are trying to defend our own method simply because we use it. BUT THEN THE ROUX USERS ARE DOING THE SAME THING. BOTH METHODS ARE GOOD. CFOP HAS MORE RESOURCES. CFOP IS BETTER TO LEARN RIGHT AFTER BEGINNERS. YOU SHOULD GIVE ROUX A TRY WHEN YOU AVERAGE AROUND 30 SECONDS WITH CFOP. BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT EITHER IS BETTER.

 

[Parity Nightmare]

I fully agree with Owen

Someone asks for a method to choose to help them understand the cube better, and then a post I sent WHICH I DID NOT MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE started a massive argument. It is mostly Roux users saying that we CFOP solvers are trying to defend our own method simply because we use it. BUT THEN THE ROUX USERS ARE DOING THE SAME THING. BOTH METHODS ARE GOOD. CFOP HAS MORE RESOURCES. CFOP IS BETTER TO LEARN RIGHT AFTER BEGINNERS. YOU SHOULD GIVE ROUX A TRY WHEN YOU AVERAGE AROUND 30 SECONDS WITH CFOP. BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT EITHER IS BETTER.

This ain't debate class..

 

[Micah Morrison]

I saw this post and was prepared to see a heated argument. I was not dissapointed

 

[Etotheipi]

Someone asks for a method to choose to help them understand the cube better, and then a post I sent WHICH I DID NOT MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE started a massive argument. It is mostly Roux users saying that we CFOP solvers are trying to defend our own method simply because we use it. BUT THEN THE ROUX USERS ARE DOING THE SAME THING. BOTH METHODS ARE GOOD. CFOP HAS MORE RESOURCES. CFOP IS BETTER TO LEARN RIGHT AFTER BEGINNERS. YOU SHOULD GIVE ROUX A TRY WHEN YOU AVERAGE AROUND 30 SECONDS WITH CFOP. BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT EITHER IS BETTER.

Which is why we should all shut up because either method is great.

 

[ProStar]

Someone asks for a method to choose to help them understand the cube better, and then a post I sent WHICH I DID NOT MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE started a massive argument. It is mostly Roux users saying that we CFOP solvers are trying to defend our own method simply because we use it. BUT THEN THE ROUX USERS ARE DOING THE SAME THING. BOTH METHODS ARE GOOD. CFOP HAS MORE RESOURCES. CFOP IS BETTER TO LEARN RIGHT AFTER BEGINNERS. YOU SHOULD GIVE ROUX A TRY WHEN YOU AVERAGE AROUND 30 SECONDS WITH CFOP. BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT EITHER IS BETTER.

(I don't use Roux) I mostly didn't like you implying CFOP was unarguably the best method. I just wanted to point out that other methods are just as good(possibly better, possibly not) as CFOP. That's all. Sorry if you didn't mean to imply that CFOP was the best method, that's just what it seemed like.


I vote we delete our posts and answer the question with "There is no 'best method'. Multiple methods have potential to be the fastest. You should do research into all the major methods(CFOP, Roux, ZZ, Petrus) and then decide what method you want based on what suits your likes/dislikes. Don't choose a method because Feliks uses it, or your best friend likes Roux, or Phil Yu uses it and you like thecubicle. Decide your method based on what suits your preferences. For info on all the major methods, look here."

 

[Parity Nightmare]

This forum is probably confusing the person with the question...

 

[ProStar]

This forum is probably confusing the person with the question...

I was thinking that lol

 

[dluong]

I you want your method to be more intuitive(not just doing a bunch of algs), I would recommend Roux. It will appease your desire to understand how the solve works, as Roux doesn't have as many algs as CFOP and is more intuition-based. I would recommend Kian Mansour's tutorials for Roux.

That's true. Roux and Petrus(haven't learned ZZ) are both more fun than CFOP imo

Thanks for all of the replies. I am going to move forward with learning Roux method for these reasons:

• It will appease my desire to understand how the solve works
• It can be used as a speed solving method
• It is not as repetitive as other methods which will make it more enjoyable for me and keep me motivated

Are there any recommended resources for learning the Roux method from beginner to advanced?

 

[Parity Nightmare]

go to youtube and search
j perm learn the roux method
click the first video and start.
ENJOY!

 

[ProStar]

Kian Mansour also has good resources

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

Or you could just use Petrus

Edit: Dang, I’m late