BaiJie 百捷 New Cube (Funs Puzzle)

[Future Cuber]

It surprises me that speedcubers have no idea what they are even looking at when they see a new puzzle. As long as it looks crazy and unique its got to be good right? NO

I don't think this cube is ever going to be released because it is so obviously flawed. Take a look the picture on the left here:

Now imagine what it would look like in this view when you did an R turn (or an L, U, or D, turn). The base of the edge is obviously not going to be able to slide past the other edge bases because it is too big. The only way it is possible is if the bases are at different depths in the cube (this would ruin it) or if the base of each edge could spin. If they could spin, you would get a gearing effect and every edge base would have to spin with each turn of the cube. You also could not to M as a single move. Also, just imagine the friction involved in spinning all of those edge bases. Definitely not worth the pop resistance it gives.

I held out on posting this because I thought surely they wouldn't get the community hyped about this and it not even work. I was waiting to be surprised and see what they do to fix this, but I doubt they will.

It has a SAPERATED PATHWAY STRUCTURE for turning

 

[TinaIsAwesome]

It has a SAPERATED PATHWAY STRUCTURE for turning

+1 It even emphasizes this in the very first post

 

[Future Cuber]

You're right Moyu is his sponsor.

The Shuang Ren II is a great cube,I've got the White one. (Preffered Stock Colour)
I've never had a case of locking or pops.The cube is really fast,although it has a scratchy noise which does go away with break-ins.

I hope the Baije surpasses both the Aolong and the Shuang Ren II

Soo.. u like fangshi...YAY me too

Lets hope for the best for baijie

+1 It even emphasizes this in the very first post

IKR how could somebody miss that

 

[MarcelP]

I would surely buy one to find out For now I love my AoLong's a lot.

 

[guysensei1]

It has a SAPERATED PATHWAY STRUCTURE for turning

I don't understand your reply. In the original post, it is not elaborated on what 'separated pathway structure' means. It may well be a weird result of literal translstion. Also, if you look at the image of the real prototype, the edge base is clearly too large, and will block the other layer. They also look like they're at the same 'height' as their neighboring edge bases.

EDIT: After reading the original post again, I realised that 'separated pathway structure' actually refers to the dual interlocking mechanism of the Shuang Ren. Nothing to do with the height of the edge bases.

 

[Future Cuber]

I don't understand your reply. In the original post, it is not elaborated on what 'separated pathway structure' means. It may well be a weird result of literal translstion. Also, if you look at the image of the real prototype, the edge base is clearly too large, and will block the other layer. They also look like they're at the same 'height' as their neighboring edge bases.

EDIT: After reading the original post again, I realised that 'separated pathway structure' actually refers to the dual interlocking mechanism of the Shuang Ren. Nothing to do with the height of the edge bases.

Well actually ........
look at the center piece you will see that there are 2 path for the corner base and the edge respectively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BKgAZ2Ar7w

watch the full video or from 1:59 min

 

[kubisto]

Do you really think a professional designer would overlook something so major? IMO wait until the puzzle comes out and then critique it.

edit: You can also see in the first post they've made a prototype of it. So obviously it can turn properly or they wouldn't be posting here.

 

[Future Cuber]

I dont understand why would they design with the center caps on the centerpiece
rather than into the centerpiece like the 54.6 fangshi

 

[LiuHP]

People on the Chinese forums are saying that this cube might be canceled due to bad performance or smthing.

 

[suushiemaniac]

That would be a pity. The design looks revolutionary-ish and I love my ShuangRen, so I'm totally excited for more FangShi 3x3 cubes.
On the other hand I can understand the issues discussed in the few previous posts. Let's see what time brings for this one...

 

[WinterCub3r]

What if the baijie turns out to be feliks new main
even though moyu is his sponsor (i think)

i dont think any of us use the Aolong just because Felix does. Its hands down an amazing cube.

 

[RobertFontaine]

I would guess many use the Aolong because Felix does and he is worth a sponsorship. I'm curious how many cubes are actually sold. Given the price of shipping actual cost of manufacture must be insanely low for there to be a respectable profit margin on these pieces.

 

[Coolster01]

*Feliks, not Felix. That error makes my stomach hurt.

 

[WinterCub3r]

i dont know why i miss spelled his name. but really, are we all so childish to only use one cube over another because someone uses it as their main and they are faster then us.

 

[Cubeologist]

are we all so childish to only use one cube over another because someone uses it as their main and they are faster then us.

Seriously, why would you use a cube that the best cuber in the world says is the best cube in the world? I mean it makes no sense to want the best. And then once you buy it and realize it is an amazing cube, why would you keep using it? People make me sick.

 

[WinterCub3r]

you guys are completly miss understanding what i was trying to say. someone on here was getting butt hurt that people were buying the aolong because he thought the only reason they were buying it was because feliks said it was good. stop being a bunch of children.

 

[RobertFontaine]

Many people are buying solely because Phelicks said it was good.

At a certain point the cube you use isn't all that relevant. What TPS can you actually sustain with look ahead? The hardware isn't the limiting factor. Greater
than 45 corner cutting is cool but outside of showing effort in design it doesn't do anything for your times.
Not saying it isn't the best cube ever made. It could be but other having a personal preference for how it feels, looks, smells it isn't likely to make anyone significantly faster than any other good speed cube.

 

[Rocky0701]

Many people are buying solely because Phelicks said it was good.

At a certain point the cube you use isn't all that relevant. What TPS can you actually sustain with look ahead? The hardware isn't the limiting factor. Greater
than 45 corner cutting is cool but outside of showing effort in design it doesn't do anything for your times.
Not saying it isn't the best cube ever made. It could be but other having a personal preference for how it feels, looks, smells it isn't likely to make anyone significantly faster than any other good speed cube.

You don't need lookahead during PLL, that is where you want high TPS.


Also, it's Feliks, not Phelicks.

 

[yoinneroid]

I'm around the same speed with my zhanchi and my weilong
but I'm minutely faster with my zhanchi
and this minute difference will become more significant as you are faster
so yeah, cube does matter
while this does not mean Feliks' main will suit you
it does not mean it will not suit you either

 

[Future Cuber]

This thread is about baijie not aolong