BaiJie 百捷 New Cube (Funs Puzzle)

mark49152 said:
I should have been more specific. Looking at the design with those massive internal centers almost touching at their corners, I wonder how this cube will cut corners at all. It doesn't look like it would tolerate much misalignment.
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Take a cube (preferably Dayan simply because I know for a fat that they work like this) and take out the UF pieces. Then do a regular corner cut by slightly misaligning the U layer and doing an R move. Upon close enough inspection, yu notice that what actually makes the cube cut corners is the base of the FR edge pressing up on the bottom of the base of the UR edge. So, this cube will still corner cut fine because the bases of the edges will touch and align the layer before the edges collide and make a lock up.

The real problem is that the bases of the edges look to big to be able to slide past eachother. I got this from looking at the pictures on the first post because the more recent ones don't show it.

"Baijie(百捷) has the least chance to pop in 3*3 version. Not “one of”, it is “the”."
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I don't think this is a true statement. I know this cube won't ever pop, but I can't see the E-cube type ) ever popping either, though I think it has other problems.
 
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@elrog: Maybe so. Certainly reverse corner cutting looks limited - imagine a turn in direction U' of a few degrees, then an R. The U center plate would block the R plate. I guess forward corner cutting would depend on how smoothly the layers would realign with upward pressure on the UR edge and it's hard to gauge that from the diagrams.

Actually for me it's the smoothness of corner cutting that matters more than the amount, and in most modern cubes that seems to depend on two corners and an edge staying together and sliding as a unit. Look at how the bases of an edge and its adjacent corners form a smooth ellipsoid shape in a Zhanchi or Weilong. How this would work with the separated pathway structure I can't visualise at all. (I'm not saying that it's bad, just that I can't see how it works - it might work differently but better.)
 
Hopefully this separated pathway will work better than the Type C WitLong and WitYou that also use a design like this but ended up being catchy.
 
I use the type 0 as my main, and it cuts corners very smoothly. Type 9 would be my main, as it cuts corners at +45 and -35 degrees, but it has 12 edge screws that are hard to adjust, as well as the 6 center ones. I still can't get it to a tension that I like. The problem that I see with the BaiJie is that the corners may twist or pop.
 
ECubesDesignerX said:
I use the type 0 as my main, and it cuts corners very smoothly. Type 9 would be my main, as it cuts corners at +45 and -35 degrees, but it has 12 edge screws that are hard to adjust, as well as the 6 center ones. I still can't get it to a tension that I like. The problem that I see with the BaiJie is that the corners may twist or pop.
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Do you have a video showing of your cubes?
 
ECubesDesignerX said:
I use the type 0 as my main, and it cuts corners very smoothly. Type 9 would be my main, as it cuts corners at +45 and -35 degrees, but it has 12 edge screws that are hard to adjust, as well as the 6 center ones. I still can't get it to a tension that I like. The problem that I see with the BaiJie is that the corners may twist or pop.
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So you got your cubes prototyped? Nice. Vids?
 
It would be easy to modify the design and make the centers have extensions that go over the corner bases to reduce corner pops. Also, having the corner bases very large would help reduce corner twists. I do think you should round the corners less (just as a precaution) and round parts the centers and edges that the corner base rides next to to make up for the corners bases being less round.

E Cuber (If you would rather me not shorten your name to this, just inform me) has not made any videos yet. He is still working on getting a good camera for it as far as I know. He has gotten some of his cubes printed on shapeways. He has also not shown the CAD drawings of some of his cube types.

Glad to see you on both forms now E Cube :D
 
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Rubiks560 said:
I don't have high hopes for this.

I've hated every cube they've made so far :P
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So, you've hated the one cube they've made.....
(Yeah I know there are different versions and stuff but they're all 1 design)

Hey, I hated the Gans II but the Gans III isn't bad. I hated the Huanying but the Weilong, Sulong, and Chilong aren't bad.
 
Lchu613 said:
So, you've hated the one cube they've made.....
(Yeah I know there are different versions and stuff but they're all 1 design)

Hey, I hated the Gans II but the Gans III isn't bad. I hated the Huanying but the Weilong, Sulong, and Chilong aren't bad.
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I liked all of the Moyu cubes. I'm hopeful that this will be good, but I'm even more hopeful that E-cubes will get mass produced.
 
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