Are Cube Rotations neccessary in this kind of situation?

[xXzaKerXx]

hey just wanna find out is cube rotations worth it in this situation:

Grab the nearest cube, and do :R U R' U' (two edge flipper) and y2

most of you would probably do U L U' L' but what if i need to insert it as the final pair? i use VHF2L so should i do a y2 or should i do a U2 and then a d2 simply because doing cube rotations require regripping of the cube which is slower?

thanks

 

[Inf3rn0]

Well which ever one is quicker for you personaly is the one i would do.

Would the U2 d2 give a somewhat better look-ahead?

 

[xXzaKerXx]

hmm i dunno because it's the last slot, and i may have to AUF a little for COLL

 

[Sakarie]

hey just wanna find out is cube rotations worth it in this situation:

Grab the nearest cube, and do :R U R' U' (two edge flipper) and y2

most of you would probably do U L U' L' but what if i need to insert it as the final pair? i use VHF2L so should i do a y2 or should i do a U2 and then a d2 simply because doing cube rotations require regripping of the cube which is slower?

thanks

What you should do is to learn the algorithms with mirrors, on te R/L-plane, F/B-plane, and the F/B & R/L-plane. Then you could do the pairs in any order.

 

[jms_gears1]

hey just wanna find out is cube rotations worth it in this situation:

Grab the nearest cube, and do :R U R' U' (two edge flipper) and y2

most of you would probably do U L U' L' but what if i need to insert it as the final pair? i use VHF2L so should i do a y2 or should i do a U2 and then a d2 simply because doing cube rotations require regripping of the cube which is slower?

thanks

rotations are not that bad....
i don't lose anytime when i rotate, versus doing the algorithm with awkward turns.

hey just wanna find out is cube rotations worth it in this situation:

Grab the nearest cube, and do :R U R' U' (two edge flipper) and y2

most of you would probably do U L U' L' but what if i need to insert it as the final pair? i use VHF2L so should i do a y2 or should i do a U2 and then a d2 simply because doing cube rotations require regripping of the cube which is slower?

thanks

What you should do is to learn the algorithms with mirrors, on te R/L-plane, F/B-plane, and the F/B & R/L-plane. Then you could do the pairs in any order.

this would make it not awkward.

 

[xXzaKerXx]

you mean insert the pair from the other side and orient LL edges?

 

[Sakarie]

you mean insert the pair from the other side and orient LL edges?

What alg would you use for your position, if you started with y2?

 

[xXzaKerXx]

i use jason baum's algs :http://jmbaum.110mb.com/zbf2l.htm but if for the case above, i use R' F R2 U R' U' F'

 

[4Chan]

Lol, I know that case well.
Mirror it, but I would also do an X' rotation, which takes basically no time, because it's at the same time as the first turn.

 

[Sakarie]

i use jason baum's algs :http://jmbaum.110mb.com/zbf2l.htm but if for the case above, i use R' F R2 U R' U' F'

That means that your new algorithm can be L' B L2 U L' U' B', which can be rewrote as r' U r L U L U' B'. That is what I would use.

 

[rubiknewbie]

Definitely U L U' L'. I don't use VHF2L and don't worry about those algorithms. Ignorance is bliss.

I have more problem with disconnected pairs than connected pairs.

 

[Cyrus C.]

Or you could do d y' R U2 R' .

 

[xXzaKerXx]

Lol, I know that case well.
Mirror it, but I would also do an X' rotation, which takes basically no time, because it's at the same time as the first turn.

so do you think it's worth it learning mirrors now? or after i learn all of ZBF2L, then only mirrors?

 

[xXzaKerXx]

Definitely U L U' L'. I don't use VHF2L and don't worry about those algorithms. Ignorance is bliss.

I have more problem with disconnected pairs than connected pairs.

I'm learning ZB so well...a friend has started averaging 19 secs, can't let him beat me

Or you could do d y' R U2 R' .

is that a VH for the same situation?

 

[4Chan]

ZB won't start helping your times until manyyyy months later. :d

 

[xXzaKerXx]

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ZB won't start helping your times until manyyyy months later. :d

i understand, but the earlier i start, the earlier i see results right?

 

[frogmanson]

U2 B2 R B R2 U' R U B

here..

or x rotation if your not good at B yet for uh

U2 x' U2 R U R2 F' R F U