Agreeing on the Role of the Government...

jms_gears1 said:
Ethan Rosen said:
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Except for the 16th and 17th amendments, I think it's pretty much a perfect document.

I believe that the role of the federal government should be little more than the defense of the people against foreign invasion, maintenance of overseas trade relations, and whatever regulations are necessary to ensure the stability of interstate commerce.
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so basically a beefed up Article Of Confederation?
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No, basically a strict enterpretation of the constitution, except for the 16th and 17th amendments.
 
Well ideally the 18th amendment would never have been passed, but the 21st amendment basically just makes them both dead weight. Since neither of them have any current effect, there isn't any harm in having them.
 
Ugh, Ayn Rand? Some of the worst popular writing that I have ever come across. The government's role is to keep everyone safe,secure, equal, and happy.
 
MonkeyDude1313 said:
However, I believe that if we could all (the majority of voters) agree on the role of government, we could spend a lot less time taking pot shots at the other political parties, and instead spend the time fixing the problems that need to be fixed.
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This usually seems to be the root of political problems, even if it isn't always obvious. So I find it kind of funny that you're asking people to agree on the one thing they cannot agree on. Even if we did agree on the role of government, the extent of its role is also going to be questioned.
 
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Ethan Rosen said:
Well ideally the 18th amendment would never have been passed, but the 21st amendment basically just makes them both dead weight. Since neither of them have any current effect, there isn't any harm in having them.
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But it's inefficiency! Any real FMC solver would have cancelled them immediately. :p Save 2 moves! Even better if you can just do an insertion into the Constitution skeleton and cancel all the extra amendments. (probably does not make sense in politics, but it works in FMC. So the analogy is a fail.)
 
anythingtwisty said:
Ugh, Ayn Rand? Some of the worst popular writing that I have ever come across. The government's role is to keep everyone safe,secure, equal, and happy.
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And what does that include?

Having a government agent take you to school everyday in a thickly armored van with helicopter backup?

That keeps you safe and secure. The government would not allow kids to be taken to school in cars driven by their parents because that would put the governments job at risk. Who knows if the parent has had anything to drink recently, or done anything to lose their ability to drive properly.

Care to explain what your "safe, secure, equal, and happy" includes?

For some people, only illegal drugs make them happy, so should the government provide that?
 
Hopefully the role of government won't be unanimously agreed on anytime soon.
Wouldn't that eliminate competition in elections?

@ anythingtwisty - That's an awfully long and vague list you have there, and it really reveals nothing about that you believe. Especially happy. Maybe I won't be happy unless the government pays for a Meffert's 4x4 for me. Should the government pay for it then?
 
In Canada, it seems like each party has a different perspective of what the government should control/change, which ends up being the main problem itself.
 
miniGOINGS said:
In Canada, it seems like each party has a different perspective of what the government should control/change, which ends up being the main problem itself.
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Thats exactly what I said about the USA in my main post.

Ethan_Rosen: I do agree that drugs should be legalized.

I don't know if this is a workable philosophy but:

The only things that should be illegal are the things that jeopardize the lives or rights or freedoms of others.

Which is exactly why Alcohol isn't illegal until you hurt someone while doing it, or driving.
 
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