A new method to solve the F2L of the Rubik's Cube?!

[Roux-er]

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[JLarsen]

The problem with this method (and with Petrus, Roux, or any other block building methods) is how each step is independent. Using Fridrich F2L, you can solve all four slots of the first two layers using, more or less, the exact same strategy. So even though Fridrich F2L is intuitive (just like block building methods), it can be executed at near-algorithmic speed. That's why, even though block builders may solve a cube with less moves, they generally can't do it very fast compared to Fridrich.

That said, I don't see anything new or inventive with this "Kaltchenko method."

I don't think the problem is that each step is different, but more that it takes much more thought to block build than to insert a pair while preserving a cross, therefore looking ahead takes a very strong blockbuilding foundation.

 

[ChaosWZ]

lol srsly? fewest moves and fridrich dont mix XD theres just too many moves on oll and pll, doesnt matter how few moves you can solve f2l with XD

 

[Lucas Garron]

lol srsly? fewest moves and fridrich dont mix XD theres just too many moves on oll and pll, doesnt matter how few moves you can solve f2l with XD

http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/regions.php?regionId=&eventId=333fm&years=&mixed=Mixed

 

[Lucas Garron]

Two things. It's "block," not "bloc" you mean.

Are you claiming your method is block-building?
I fail to see how it's significantly more block-building than Fridrich.

As far as I know, most methods considered blockbuilding have work by extending block parts or creating entire new blocks at each step. Your method builds a column (I wouldn't really call it a block instead, due to its characteristics), inserts 4 edges, and continues.

But that's debatable, nd perhaps Kenneth has something good to say.

 

[mazei]

I think for speed purposes a more Roux approach on this would be faster or even ZZ since you would do an EO line and then doing the 2x2x3 block. For FMC purposes I think this is usable but then again, its something that most people would just improvise with so I don't see a reason to put a name for it. Its just a Petrus variation that doesn't bring in any new elements. Still block building IMO.

 

[peedu]

Hi!
I mainly use CFOP to solve. Average 3of5 40+ sec. Been cubing since the "first wave". Now I don't care about the time very much but I like to see it going faster with some minor training.
I will use that "method" (or call it block building order) next time when some time needs to be killed. I've done the same with Roux and Petrus so far - just sit on your bus/train/plane ride and try to solve the same old 3x3x3 puzzle a bit differently and enjoy some relaxing brain work doing it without a load of algorithms.

So, thanks for a new idea (for me) about how to play.

Peedu

 

[Ton]

i cant exactly argue that look ahead would be difficult, but finger tricks are definately possible.for the second and third step, you can solve the cube using only R r U and u turns. ill post a how to later in the description of my video. for the third and fourth steps, you can solve the cube using d R and u moves.
PS i dint know this wasnt a new concept...but still,i dont think anyone has actually bothered to record a method like this
PPS thanks for giving a constructive response...not many people do that...

by the way i like freestyle methods...

Nothing wrong with freestyle, as many already many top cubers 4x4 and 5x5 do edge paring freestyle

However this means also lot of training to become fast, for sure if you master this kind of freestyle (non -color depended) it could be useful. On first I think it is most suitable for FM.

Btw I would call this method "freestyle blockbuilding" as the concept is not new for FM, you just post it as one of the first to be used for speedcubing. This does not mean you are the first.....

 

[brunson]

its just an intermediate method that uses a more or less unique sort of block building

More less than more.

BTW, your shift key seems to be broken.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

WHO THE HELL DOWNRATES !!!!

 

[miniGOINGS]

WHO THE HELL DOWNRATES !!!!

Humans, viewers.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

i mean WHo downrated...my guess is a petrus user

you could use petrus

 

[Robert-Y]

ps im a genious take that haters

Was the misspelling deliberate?

 

[joey]

i cant exactly argue that look ahead would be difficult, but finger tricks are definately possible.for the second and third step, you can solve the cube using only R r U and u turns. ill post a how to later in the description of my video. for the third and fourth steps, you can solve the cube using d R and u moves.
PS i dint know this wasnt a new concept...but still,i dont think anyone has actually bothered to record a method like this
PPS thanks for giving a constructive response...not many people do that...

by the way i like freestyle methods...

Nothing wrong with freestyle, as many already many top cubers 4x4 and 5x5 do edge paring freestyle

However this means also lot of training to become fast, for sure if you master this kind of freestyle (non -color depended) it could be useful. On first I think it is most suitable for FM.

Btw I would call this method "freestyle blockbuilding" as the concept is not new for FM, you just post it as one of the first to be used for speedcubing. This does not mean you are the first.....

thanks for the comment at least someone doesnt hate this method. nice method name i think ill use it...

oh and by the way this method isnt that hard... ive been speedcubing for a year and using my method for a week and my f2l average is 19 seconds sharp and im improving

ps im a genious take that haters

I wouldn't call it freestyle blockbuilding.. it's NOT freestyle at all.

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

There is no "different way" to create a 2x2x3 block :rolleyes:

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

There is no "different way" to create a 2x2x3 block :rolleyes:

ya there is MINE



AND PLEASE DONT DOWNRATE. I KNOW YOU CAN USE PETRUS!

 

[JLarsen]

You're missing the point...

 

[jms_gears1]

sigh ok look he made a method and it seems interesting, its based off petrus sure but that doesnt make one method better than the other.

COD: look people are going to downrate and hate on your method oh well thats just the nature of humans deal with it, its not that big of a deal if you use this method and get good times fine, good for you, others get pretty good times using petrus, roux, zz and fridrich its a choice really

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

sigh ok look he made a method and it seems interesting, its based off petrus sure but that doesnt make one method better than the other.

COD: look people are going to downrate and hate on your method oh well thats just the nature of humans deal with it, its not that big of a deal if you use this method and get good times fine, good for you, others get pretty good times using petrus, roux, zz and fridrich its a choice really

I didnt want to start a long and drawn out which-method-is-better thing, I just posted a new idea. And i agree with you saying one method isnt really better than the other; every cuber has preference. I just thought someone might like this and use it but im mistaken. So many haters.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I agree, you identified a *new* and unique way of building a block. I am not going to say anything about which method is better/faster/more efficeint. Thank you for posting your idea.