CriticalCubing
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I would love to review this 
Lets see how it compares to my current lubrication.
Lets see how it compares to my current lubrication.
A new class of oil for cubes
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Sounds awesome! I've always wanted see a better lube try to be created, can't wait for the reviews.
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There a lot of big words in that post, OP. And as everyone knows, Big words = great product!!
ketchuphater999
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lol
how did that get on there?
anyway, I would probably try this out on my own, but with my money I think it's best that I wait until someone's made a review. And also, you can make a nice looking website with even less effort using a web design software like sandvox(the demo should be good enough for you).
Just wanted to say thank you for all the well-qualified PM's received and the notes of encouragement posted on the thread. I think we have enough reviewers for now.
I also wanted to note that the first round of oil bottles are kind of stiff so squeezing isn't all that easy. I find it easier to just unscrew the vial and with a little brush paint the surfaces of the cubies and core. You can try the couple of drops in the cracks and let it dribble in method too but that's messier
Ras
I also wanted to note that the first round of oil bottles are kind of stiff so squeezing isn't all that easy. I find it easier to just unscrew the vial and with a little brush paint the surfaces of the cubies and core. You can try the couple of drops in the cracks and let it dribble in method too but that's messier
Ras
JemFish
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Yay! Looks like this lubricant is going to be good...
false.
you forgot the incredibly cheap and far better syncolon ptfe:
http://www.homedepot.ca/produit/tube-3-onces-graisse-synthetique-avec-syncolon-ptfe/849414
Have you actually tried it on a cube?
One would *think* that Teflon (PTFE) would be the perfect lubricant but in practice it is a poor choice for plastic on plastic applications. Teflon is great at keeping stuff from sticking to it with the exception of.... other things made of Teflon! When two objects are coated with Teflon and allowed to come to rest the two form a weak bond. A bond, of course, is exactly the opposite of what you want a lubricant to do. Once you break the bond the two parts slide past each other really well but while standing they're a little sticky. If you coated your cube in Teflon you would find it had an annoying stickiness every time you stopped turning. This is due to Teflon having a higher static coefficient of friction than a moving one.
For this reason DuPont, the company that invented Teflon, recommends its use in parts that are moving (and preferably moving fast). See for yourself http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/product/multi-use-lubricant.php
Ras
One would *think* that Teflon (PTFE) would be the perfect lubricant but in practice it is a poor choice for plastic on plastic applications. Teflon is great at keeping stuff from sticking to it with the exception of.... other things made of Teflon! When two objects are coated with Teflon and allowed to come to rest the two form a weak bond. A bond, of course, is exactly the opposite of what you want a lubricant to do. Once you break the bond the two parts slide past each other really well but while standing they're a little sticky. If you coated your cube in Teflon you would find it had an annoying stickiness every time you stopped turning. This is due to Teflon having a higher static coefficient of friction than a moving one.
For this reason DuPont, the company that invented Teflon, recommends its use in parts that are moving (and preferably moving fast). See for yourself http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/product/multi-use-lubricant.php
Ras
timeless
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dont forget about hair gel, some thai cubers use it from what ive heard
Seanliu
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Just wanted to say thank you for all the well-qualified PM's received and the notes of encouragement posted on the thread. I think we have enough reviewers for now.
I also wanted to note that the first round of oil bottles are kind of stiff so squeezing isn't all that easy. I find it easier to just unscrew the vial and with a little brush paint the surfaces of the cubies and core. You can try the couple of drops in the cracks and let it dribble in method too but that's messier
Ras
Hopefully I can put that information to good use if I test it!
How to paint the core?
Take screws out and just paint them?
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(X)
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Best lube I ever tried
Seanliu
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Lolwut.
Try Bacon grease then WD-40 then top it off with Maru lube. Now put Superglue. Boom.
(May render cube unusable.)
What?
Differential oils typically sell for about $0.1 per ml, that's not expensive, that's just cheap. The "ridiculously expensive" PFPE only costs about $0.80 per ml (even in a small quantity such as 0.5 kg instead of 20 kg: link). The product that you are proposing here costs $2.8 per ml, if $0.80 per ml is "ridiculously expensive", then what should I call this? Even the overpriced Maru lube only costs $0.5 to $0.2 per ml.I can hardly imagine the improvement of either the lubrication itself or the time it takes to dry out is so big that it justifies this price difference, but that's of course just my opinion. Who knows, this might just be the holy grail of cube lube.
Yes I use it regularly on all older cubes for which the original lube is gone, or for non pre-lubed ones.
This is not the dry dupont teflon spray (which is really slow and not sticking by the way, I tried it);
This is not about teflon "coating" either.
This is about a silicon grease (not dripping viscous) with teflon molecules in the mix (as far as I can understand).I would say it exceeds vaseline performance while giving a similar feel, but without the harm to the plastic.
It is designed explicitly for plastic parts. There is no guess in that choice, it is not an experiment like hair gel or what else...
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NewCuber000
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Wait, did you say differential oil has negative effects on your cubes? The most I've ever heard happening to people using Differential was parts of the plastic inside the cube getting a bit discoloured or something. And I wouldn't care about that, I don't look inside my cube while solving Jigaloo on the other hand melts the plastic if you do it wrong, but I have a method to it and I've been using it for like 3 months now with no problems. (I ruined my 2x2 before perfecting the use of Jigaloo)
This lube you're talking about (Although overpriced) seems pretty good the way you're talking about it. But Im probably just going to stick with the 30K differential oil thats on it's way to my house atm
Jigaloo on the other hand melts the plastic if you do it wrong, but I have a method to it and I've been using it for like 3 months now with no problems. (I ruined my 2x2 before perfecting the use of Jigaloo)This lube you're talking about (Although overpriced) seems pretty good the way you're talking about it. But Im probably just going to stick with the 30K differential oil thats on it's way to my house atm
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Rubiks560
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I have this coming. I'll review it when I get it.
pdilla
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I just received the lube. Review will come soon (Valentine's Day with the wife first, 
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EDIT -----
Feb 14, 2014:
A quick review, since I have time.
BEFORE YOU CLICK THE REVIEW.
If you are planning on reviewing this lube yourself, please don't read my review of it yet. I would like to see what you think about this lube without any influence or priming from a prior review.
Just an experiment,
Thanks.
Full video review coming soon...
)EDIT -----
Feb 14, 2014:
A quick review, since I have time.
BEFORE YOU CLICK THE REVIEW.
If you are planning on reviewing this lube yourself, please don't read my review of it yet. I would like to see what you think about this lube without any influence or priming from a prior review.
Just an experiment,
Thanks.
This review is for T-Minus One from Cubiteria.
First off, OP didn't send this to me for review. I bought this lube with my own money.
I didn't use the website for checkout, but used Amazon instead. That being said, the package was shipped the very next day and the package arrived two days later. Priority envelope inside of another priority envelope. Not the best padding, but it didn't really matter as I'll explain.
The bottle that the lube came is tough. It has a low chance of being simply smooshed, but that strength is also its drawback. It's hard to squeeze. Good luck doing careful, controlled applications with this bottle. I would think about purchasing a separate syringe for applications.
The lube itself is graphite grey. There appears to be some demulsification between a clear oil and a grey matter. A good shake prior to application will help this. The lube is fairly runny so keep towels around. Also, I'm not sure how well this will work for white cubes, as staining occurs.
Notice the grey staining
I've applied the T-Minus One to an AoLong v2.
As for how the cube resulted in performing and feeling...
O.o
The cube is a bit sluggish at first, like many first applications of lube. After a bit of breaking in I immediately noticed a distinct change in the cube's sound. That is, that high pitched clickiness that my cube had, whilst lubed by a bit of Traxxas, is gone. A muffled and duller clacking sound has replaced it.
The muffled sound came paired with a very padded feel. I'm not sure how else to describe it. I can feel an almost rubbery substance between the pieces that sort of smoothes out the collisions of the pieces. The cube has a new smoothed out feel overall.
A good way to describe it is like this; think about having a rock in each hand and clacking them together. Feel that tactile sensation? Good. Now imagine the rocks had a cloth between them while hitting each other. A distinct drop in impact.
The lube also has a tendency to find it's way out of the cube and onto the surface of your stickers. I didn't use very much, but the leakage still happens. Some hot water on a paper towel, then a quick wipe with a dry towel does the trick though, which I am surprised at since PFPE typically requires special removal chemicals due to it's high resistance to organic solvents. I guess the mixture of oils helps.
All in all, an interesting lube. I'm not sure what I think of it yet. I'll break in the lube a bit more and play around with the cube for a while more before posting up a full video review and posting it to this thread.
Thanks.
First off, OP didn't send this to me for review. I bought this lube with my own money.
I didn't use the website for checkout, but used Amazon instead. That being said, the package was shipped the very next day and the package arrived two days later. Priority envelope inside of another priority envelope. Not the best padding, but it didn't really matter as I'll explain.
The bottle that the lube came is tough. It has a low chance of being simply smooshed, but that strength is also its drawback. It's hard to squeeze. Good luck doing careful, controlled applications with this bottle. I would think about purchasing a separate syringe for applications.
The lube itself is graphite grey. There appears to be some demulsification between a clear oil and a grey matter. A good shake prior to application will help this. The lube is fairly runny so keep towels around. Also, I'm not sure how well this will work for white cubes, as staining occurs.
Notice the grey staining
I've applied the T-Minus One to an AoLong v2.
As for how the cube resulted in performing and feeling...
O.o
The cube is a bit sluggish at first, like many first applications of lube. After a bit of breaking in I immediately noticed a distinct change in the cube's sound. That is, that high pitched clickiness that my cube had, whilst lubed by a bit of Traxxas, is gone. A muffled and duller clacking sound has replaced it.
The muffled sound came paired with a very padded feel. I'm not sure how else to describe it. I can feel an almost rubbery substance between the pieces that sort of smoothes out the collisions of the pieces. The cube has a new smoothed out feel overall.
A good way to describe it is like this; think about having a rock in each hand and clacking them together. Feel that tactile sensation? Good. Now imagine the rocks had a cloth between them while hitting each other. A distinct drop in impact.
The lube also has a tendency to find it's way out of the cube and onto the surface of your stickers. I didn't use very much, but the leakage still happens. Some hot water on a paper towel, then a quick wipe with a dry towel does the trick though, which I am surprised at since PFPE typically requires special removal chemicals due to it's high resistance to organic solvents. I guess the mixture of oils helps.
All in all, an interesting lube. I'm not sure what I think of it yet. I'll break in the lube a bit more and play around with the cube for a while more before posting up a full video review and posting it to this thread.
Thanks.
Full video review coming soon...
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ender9994
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I just received the lube. Review will come soon (Valentine's Day with the wife first,
Perhaps you could also give a quick summary about your interaction with this new cube shop. Let us know how easy check out was, how long items took to be shipped out, and how long shipping took/method of shipping. This would allow potential customers to decide if they want to purchase from this store.
-Doug
pdilla
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Review posted in above post.
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