5th gen. Pokemon games announced.

[Thomas09]

... Are you excited?

 

[AndyRoo789]

Cool.

I quit pokemon around the time diamond/pearl came out.

Emerald was da bomb.

 

[wing92]

What's really changed between the first pokemon games and now these fifth generation ones besides the addition of around 250 new pokemon? The basic gameplay has always been the same: you can hold six pokemon, each of which can know 4 attacks. Walk around in the grass a lot to train your pokemon until you're ready to take on a gym leader. Beat the gym leader, move on to the next town's patch of grass.

Don't get me wrong, I've put many hours into Pokemon Red and had lots of fun with it. Yesterday I was playing diamond(I think) on a friend's DS and it was really no different. The inventory was organized. There was a clock. I may be completely missing something here but it seems to me that there's nothing new to be excited about.

 

[Forte]

What's really changed between the first pokemon games and now these fifth generation ones besides the addition of around 250 new pokemon? The basic gameplay has always been the same: you can hold six pokemon, each of which can know 4 attacks. Walk around in the grass a lot to train your pokemon until you're ready to take on a gym leader. Beat the gym leader, move on to the next town's patch of grass.

Don't get me wrong, I've put many hours into Pokemon Red and had lots of fun with it. Yesterday I was playing diamond(I think) on a friend's DS and it was really no different. The inventory was organized. There was a clock. I may be completely missing something here but it seems to me that there's nothing new to be excited about.

Actual battle mechanics have changes a lot. The ingame story is always lame >_>

 

[wing92]

Actual battle mechanics have changes a lot.

How so? It seems to me to just be you pick a move, the other person picks a move, whoever's faster goes first unless there's a quick attack. Are there more things that cause a lasting effect like poison and paralyze? I'm curious now.

The ingame story is always lame >_>

Agreed.

 

[ISuckAtCubing]

What's really changed between the first pokemon games and now these fifth generation ones besides the addition of around 250 new pokemon? The basic gameplay has always been the same: you can hold six pokemon, each of which can know 4 attacks. Walk around in the grass a lot to train your pokemon until you're ready to take on a gym leader. Beat the gym leader, move on to the next town's patch of grass.

Don't get me wrong, I've put many hours into Pokemon Red and had lots of fun with it. Yesterday I was playing diamond(I think) on a friend's DS and it was really no different. The inventory was organized. There was a clock. I may be completely missing something here but it seems to me that there's nothing new to be excited about.

I agree

 

[Thomas09]

Actual battle mechanics have changes a lot.

How so? It seems to me to just be you pick a move, the other person picks a move, whoever's faster goes first unless there's a quick attack. Are there more things that cause a lasting effect like poison and paralyze? I'm curious now.

I could go into detail. Do you want me too?

 

[janelle]

I'm excited But it probably won't come out in the US 'til next year Well at least there will be HG/SS

Yeah I agree. It's pretty much the same it was before, they just added new features.

 

[moogra]

Have the battle mechanics changed after ruby/sapphire? I don't recall but I could be wrong. After all, I don't play much.

 

[Thomas09]

Have the battle mechanics changed after ruby/sapphire? I don't recall but I could be wrong. After all, I don't play much.

Yes. One type would always be assigned to either Physical or Special. Like Ice punch would be special because it's an ice type. In 4th gen they fixed that and seperated them depending on if it made sense. So Ice Punch would be physical is it's phisically hitting them.

 

[maggot]

why people play this when there is much better thing to do with time.... go learn your oll...

 

[Thomas09]

why people play this when there is much better thing to do with time.... go learn your oll...

Why? Because it's fun. Why do we cube? Because it's fun.

 

[Zarxrax]

The newer pokemon games just take the old formula and slightly refine it. It's still the same core game, but it's slighty improved each time. It's really no different from how you have a new version of a sports game like Madden every year, or new versions of fighting games like street fighter.

Personally, I'm a bit tired of the formula, so I'm not all that interested. Also I think there's just way too many pokemon and stuff now, it's a lot of work to actually learn it all. I would be much more excited if they made a new game with just the original 150~ pokemon and radically changed it somehow.

 

[eastamazonantidote]

The only reason I care about pokemon anymore is because of Shoddy. This is also why I am looking forward to the game's release. My stall team needs a little extra fat.

 

[Forte]

Have the battle mechanics changed after ruby/sapphire? I don't recall but I could be wrong. After all, I don't play much.

Yes. One type would always be assigned to either Physical or Special. Like Ice punch would be special because it's an ice type. In 4th gen they fixed that and seperated them depending on if it made sense. So Ice Punch would be physical is it's phisically hitting them.

Yeah, this has basically made some Pokemon totally worthless, and some Pokemon totally awesome.

And from 1st and 2nd gen, the biggest changes are abilities and double battles.

 

[blade740]

Honestly, I have played one game from every generation and enjoyed every one. Every generation they do things just a little better, and create a bunch of new pokemon for me to figure out. I remember back in the day when I hadn't seen all 150 pokemon, red was so interesting. You were always wondering what the next awesome pokemon you'd see would be (even though you know it's probably a zubat anyway). Changing the roster just gives a new sense of mystery.

Plus, they know that if they screw with the gameplay too much it won't feel like pokemon any more.

 

[Dene]

Personally I think they should have stopped after Silver/Gold. Things got a bit out of control after then I think. The thing that bugged me the most was the double team thing that they started. In one of the very first Pokemon episodes they made it clear that double team fights were illegal. :/

 

[blade740]

EVERYONE says something like that. "They were good up to [insert your favorite generation here]"

Also, the TV show was written by a completely different company than the games, so you can't really take anything from the show as canon.

 

[Toad]

Just to say, I haven't read any of this thread apart from the title but have this to say:

Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow on the Gameboy are the only true Pokemon games.

All these others are for complete newfags who like pretty colours more than a decent storyline / good game.

[/rant]

 

[blade740]

>_> Way to prove my post right above yours.

The storyline in red/blue/yellow was just as lame as the other ones. The game was just as good. You just refuse to accept anything else.