2-Gen vs. Regular Algorithms

[dChan]

Alright, there are some algorithms that ae fast one-handed when you do the 2-gen version but there are also algorithms that are a few moves longer than when you do the regular version. Right now I use all my regular algorithms for OH, but should I make the switch to 2-gen? I know the 2-gen of the H permutation but it is a little bit longer than what I do now, so is it really better? Maybe I just need to get used to it?

Which do you prefer, regular or 2-gen algs for one-handed solving?

 

[tenderchkn]

H-perm is a special case...I use the one that starts with L'RU2, but with a lot of cube rotations that I can't explain. Same thing with Z-perm, you can use the 2-gen but a variation of the Dan Knights alg is very fast 1h.

 

[dChan]

I don't know what is better really. But the 2-gen algs seem to be longer than regular algs. So its either: 2 side turns + longer alg or multiple side turns + shorter alg.

 

[gillesvdp]

As for me, I use the Z-Perm 2-Gen algorithm.

But for the H-Perm, I do L' R' U2 l L U z L x U2 R' L'
It seems complicated but I find it faster than the regular L' R' U2 R L y L' R' U2 R L.

Just try it.

 

[Jason Baum]

Z Perm: U R x' U' (R' D) (U R') (U D') R' U R D2

H Perm: R2 U2 R U2 R2 U2 R2 U2 R U2 R2

All of the R2s are done a ring-pinky double trigger. The U2s I just flick my index finger twice.

My Z Perm is 4.35-4.6, and my H Perm is easily sub 4.

 

[gillesvdp]

just a question : how do you time your PLLs ?

I suppose you use a stackmat but do you start with the cube in your hand or the cube lying on the table ? (and how to you stop it ? - flat hand ? - touch the pad when the permutaiton is done ?)


I personally time everything with the cube lying on the table and by stopping the timer like at the end of an official solve in a competition.

GIlles

 

[Jason Baum]

I use a stackmat, but I start with the cube in my hand. I stop the timer flat hand. I like timing this way better than starting with the cube on the table and picking it up because it is more representative of an actual solve. You lose some time by picking the cube up, so executing the same alg on an actual solve would (theoretically) be faster without the time lost. That's why I start the timer with the cube in hand.