Sometimes, it IS the cube, not the cuber

5BLD said:
Pff the point is that you shouldn't worry about your hardware for so long that you lose valuable practice time.

"It's the cuber, the cube, and the lighting" implies that they are of equal importance which they are not. And one of them takes much longer to develop. Aside from that, it's just word games really.
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It's the Cuber the cube, and the lighting.
 
i used a crappy cube that coasted 2.90 sgd and my times were sub 30 while using my liying times were sub 19 so it is true and srry for fangshi 2x2 users or fans i get sub 8 using it but dayan iget sub 5 not saying tha fangshi is crap the rubiks brand
 
5BLD said:
"It's the cuber, the cube, and the lighting" implies that they are of equal importance which they are not.
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Does it? Do you make garlic bread with equal parts of garlic and bread? What about lemon chicken?

Also, if you look again, you will see that I said "It's always some combination of the cube, the cuber, and the lighting," and not "It's always equal proportions of the cube, the cuber, and the lighting."

guysensei1 said:
Are you saying females cannot improve their cubes?
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No, I believe he's saying that he's aware of the rule that says "his" should be used when the gender is unknown or nonspecific. This is no cause for offence, so let's not try to turn it into one.
 
There are an infinite number of things that can affect a cubers times. I just got a 23.47 instead of a 23.48 because some dude in China just sneezed. In all reality, it is the cuber the most, but cubes can help or hurt a good cubers solves, especially with certain events.
 
Tempus said:
No, I believe he's saying that he's aware of the rule that says "his" should be used when the gender is unknown or nonspecific. This is no cause for offence, so let's not try to turn it into one.
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It was just odd because he clearly made an unnecessary specification. And using male pronouns in those cases is not a "rule."

Renslay said:
Lighting? Really? Then we should add noise, nerve, cameras, coffee, age, exhaustion, air pollution and the number of barking puppies too.
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Why do those things seem so unbelievable? Lighting certainly affects times. Try solving a cube in the dark, obviously without memorization in the light or something.

I think this thread misses the point of the phrase, imo. Plenty of threads include people blaming their cubes for their performance when this is not the case, but I have never seen "it's the cuber, not the cube" used to imply that all cubes result in the same performance.
 
rowan said:
It was just odd because he clearly made an unnecessary specification. And using male pronouns in those cases is not a "rule."



Why do those things seem so unbelievable? Lighting certainly affects times. Try solving a cube in the dark, obviously without memorization in the light or something.

I think this thread misses the point of the phrase, imo. Plenty of threads include people blaming their cubes for their performance when this is not the case, but I have never seen "it's the cuber, not the cube" used to imply that all cubes result in the same performance.
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Lighting will definitely affect your time, maybe one or two sec, the cube will maybe make your times fluctuate between 3-5 sec from say a zhanchi to a weilong, but the things that mostly affect your time are the cuber, the method they are using, whether 2-step oll, 1-step pll, roux, or cfop, and finally the mindset in which you solve the cube with. The clearer your mind is, the more space you will have in your brain to think about look-ahead, oll pairs, etc. Music sometimes helps, and do not smash your cube when you get a +2 or DNF, i did that once and broke the center of my weilong :(. Remember, the cuber, method, and mindset will determine the time of your solve.
 
CubeAllDay123 said:
the cube will maybe make your times fluctuate between 3-5 sec from say a zhanchi to a weilong,
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I don't see how that's possible for ANYONE. If your times are extremely slow, you won't feel a difference between those two, and if you are faster, 3-5 seconds is a big percentage of your solve. Even at my speed (~26 average), I only notice a 1 second difference between using my Weilong and my DianMa (which I hate). You might notice 3-5 seconds going from Rubik's brand to a speed cube, but I doubt it will make more than a second difference going between the two of the best speed cubes on the market.
 
The cuber and the cubes are equally important
Its like ...
A blind person cant see even if light is there
and even if there is no light you cant see a thing
basically both light and blindness are equally important
therefore the cuber and the cubes are equally important
 
Future Cuber said:
The cuber and the cubes are equally important
Its like ...
A blind person cant see even if light is there
and even if there is no light you cant see a thing
basically both light and blindness are equally important
therefore the cuber and the cubes are equally important
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First of all, quite a bizarre metaphor...

And secondly, put a Rubik's Brand in Feliks's hands and you'll end up with a solved cube pretty quickly, put a Weilong in someone who doesn't know how to solve the cube, and it will still be unsolved weeks later. It's most definitely not equal. Much more about the cuber than the cube.
 
DeeDubb said:
First of all, quite a bizarre metaphor...

And secondly, put a Rubik's Brand in Feliks's hands and you'll end up with a solved cube pretty quickly, put a Weilong in someone who doesn't know how to solve the cube, and it will still be unsolved weeks later. It's most definitely not equal. Much more about the cuber than the cube.
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1. Well ..You just proved my point correct ..The cuber and the cube are equally important
2. the metaphor ..... well that was the only one that popped in to my mind at that moment
 
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Future Cuber said:
1. Well ..You just proved my point correct ..The cuber and the cube are equally important
2. the metaphor ..... well that was the only one that popped in to my mind at that moment
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I don't think I did. I said that a Weilong in the hands of someone who don't know how to solve a cube will never be solved even in months, and a Rubik's Brand in Feliks's hands will be solved still rather quickly.
The end result is:
A great cuber with an inept cube = a solved cube rather quickly
An inept cuber with a great cube = an unsolved cube even after months

This clearly shows the cuber is much more important than the cube.
 
DeeDubb said:
I don't think I did. I said that a Weilong in the hands of someone who don't know how to solve a cube will never be solved even in months, and a Rubik's Brand in Feliks's hands will be solved still rather quickly.
The end result is:
A great cuber with an inept cube = a solved cube rather quickly
An inept cuber with a great cube = an unsolved cube even after months

This clearly shows the cuber is much more important than the cube.
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Feliks would average sub 10 on a Rubiks brand and after months of practice i doby even average sub 20. The cuber is more important.
 
DeeDubb said:
I don't think I did. I said that a Weilong in the hands of someone who don't know how to solve a cube will never be solved even in months, and a Rubik's Brand in Feliks's hands will be solved still rather quickly.
The end result is:
A great cuber with an inept cube = a solved cube rather quickly
An inept cuber with a great cube = an unsolved cube even after months

This clearly shows the cuber is much more important than the cube.
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Feliks can break WR's with rubiks cube
can he ????
But he CAN with an aolong or a weilong ...
This proves that the cuber and the cube are equally important
 
DeeDubb said:
That's your problem. You are definitely using that word without really thinking about what it means.
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People have different opinion on this topic
U think in a different perspective and i think in a different one
SO PEACE :tu :)

EDIT : I know what EQUAL means alright
 
The cuber is way more important in most cubes a speedcuber can do 2 tps (even broken in Rubik's) but if you give a speed cube to somebody who just learned to solve a cube he can't even do 0.5 tps.

Not even mentioning that a speedcuber solves the cube in 55 moves and a beginner in like 120 moves.
 
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