[Help Thread] Skewb Discussion

[TheNextFeliks]

So do most of the fast people use Sarah's method? Does anyone (other than him ofc) use Ranzha's method?

 

[tx789]

Um. Half the 2x2 rotates at a time as well.

ture. Skewb is a corner turning rather than face turn those.

So do most of the fast people use Sarah's method? Does anyone (other than him ofc) use Ranzha's method?

I average 17-18. My tps is so bad. I use either Ranzha or Sarah's. If I get a welders mask after making a layer. I use Ranzha's.

I think to be fast at Skewb you would use a method like Kirmeep, Sarah's or Ranzha's with lots of tricks and stuff. To help with 1 look last layer? What should the group of cases when a layer is solves be called? Has it already got a term for it?

 

[TheDubDubJr]

Color-neutral first layer:
0 3110
1 24880
2 133152
3 666904
4 1675934
5 640870
6 4430
Total: 3,149,280
Average Move Count: 3.8823356449728191840674693898288

Graph: View attachment 3348

If you want me to do any other statistics just let me know.

What about a Color-neutral first face?

 

[Methuselah96]

What about a Color-neutral first face?

One-color first face:
0 1080
1 8640
2 47520
3 272160
4 1032480
5 1506600
6 280800
Total: 3,149,280
Average Move Count: 4.5305212620027434842249657064472

Graph:

Opposite-color first face:
0 2136
1 17088
2 92736
3 506208
4 1496160
5 1007688
6 27264
Total: 3,149,280
Average Move Count: 4.0986663618350861149215058680079

Graph:

Color-neutral first face:
0 6314
1 49648
2 259320
3 1156648
4 1540878
5 136080
6 392
Total: 3,149,280
Average Move Count: 3.4561855408220291622212061169537

Graph:

If you want me to do any other statistics just let me know.

 

[Kirjava]

Crosspost for visibility

Skewb definition files for ksolve+

I remember alg generation was a nightmare when Meep and I started - this is a lot easier.

 

[Ranzha]

Crosspost for visibility

Skewb definition files for ksolve+

I remember alg generation was a nightmare when Meep and I started - this is a lot easier.

Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou

Finals week; L4C+CLL generation is on the backburner atm. Will post soon (I hope).

 

[Izanagi]

Skewb Fingertricks

Hello, first post lol

anyway, i was wondering if you could share some good fingertricks for doing the sledgehammer and the hedgeslammer on the skewb.
I just started, and using Sarah's method, but my turning is awkward. Also, I saw what she does in her video tutorial but a more indepth and varied explanation would be helpful.
Thanks in advance

-Iz

 

[Sa967St]

Crosspost for visibility

Skewb definition files for ksolve+

I remember alg generation was a nightmare when Meep and I started - this is a lot easier.

Thank you so much!

Hello, first post lol

anyway, i was wondering if you could share some good fingertricks for doing the sledgehammer and the hedgeslammer on the skewb.
I just started, and using Sarah's method, but my turning is awkward. Also, I saw what she does in her video tutorial but a more indepth and varied explanation would be helpful.
Thanks in advance

-Iz

I'll make a video for this. I'd suggest others who can perform the sledgie and hedgie well make a video too. I'm interested in seeing how others perform it.

edit:
Here you go. I just did it in one take, so the explanations aren't well spoken, but hopefully it's understandable enough.

 

[Mike Hughey]

What are the equivalents on Skewb of sub20/15/10 on 3x3?

I think sub 15/10/5 could be a close parallel to your listed ones..
Eventually times will get closer to pyraminx ones and could be used as a reference..

I have a feeling it will be lower than that. I use a blatantly beginner's method (make a face, then use just 2 algs plus 2 variants on those algs to solve the rest - 4 algs to learn total), and I average sub-15. Sub-20 is difficult on 3x3x3. Sub-15 is not difficult on skewb even with a beginner's method.

If I had to guess, I'd guess sub-20/15/10 on 3x3x3 will be equivalent to sub-10/7.5/5 on skewb. That's for averages; singles are easier (relative to averages) on skewb than on 3x3x3.

 

[Tim Major]

I agree with Mike, but I'd put it more 12/9/6

Once ShenShou/MoYu/DaYan/new company release a good skewb and more methods are developed, I could see WR average being sub 5, and faster. Look where Pyra is today. Maybe in 3 years skewb will be almost comparable.

 

[Michael Womack]

I agree with Mike, but I'd put it more 12/9/6

Once ShenShou/MoYu/DaYan/new company release a good skewb and more methods are developed, I could see WR average being sub 5, and faster. Look where Pyra is today. Maybe in 3 years skewb will be almost comparable.

I could see them doing something like this to there Skewb mechs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2rqaZpvSMA and I have done it to mine and it really works.

 

[Izanagi]

I'll make a video for this. I'd suggest others who can perform the sledgie and hedgie well make a video too. I'm interested in seeing how others perform it.

edit:
Here you go. I just did it in one take, so the explanations aren't well spoken, but hopefully it's understandable enough.

Spoiler: video

that's great thanks! ^_^ I especially liked 4:15 and 4:17 where you use your pointer to kinda pinch the skewbie downward. I'll practice this and as you said, instead of copying it, I'll try to come up with something.
Once again, thanks!

-Iz

 

[Carrot]

Thank you so much!



I'll make a video for this. I'd suggest others who can perform the sledgie and hedgie well make a video too. I'm interested in seeing how others perform it.

edit:
Here you go. I just did it in one take, so the explanations aren't well spoken, but hopefully it's understandable enough.

Spoiler: video

how do you even turn it that fast like that :O

 

[TiLiMayor]

Is there any skewb race going on right now?

 

[Ranzha]

Is there any skewb race going on right now?

I need to start that back up. This week is my finals week, so once that blows over, I'll start it up again in a brand new Skewb Race thread =)
Unless, of course, mods would prefer the race stay in the original thread as to "cut down on clutter".

 

[Izanagi]

Annoying Z and H

So, the Z and H perms are really annoying to do, since i have to sledge sledge, then i get a Uperm, for which again sledge sledge.
Ive begun learning the "intermediate" variation to Sarah's method, and i am kinda getting the hang of it. I was wondering if there is any alternate way in which we can execute the Z and H perms.

-Iz

 

[TheDubDubJr]

So, the Z and H perms are really annoying to do, since i have to sledge sledge, then i get a Uperm, for which again sledge sledge.
Ive begun learning the "intermediate" variation to Sarah's method, and i am kinda getting the hang of it. I was wondering if there is any alternate way in which we can execute the Z and H perms.

-Iz

Meep's site is nice for learning Last 5 Centers cases including Z and H perms.

http://meep.cubing.net/skewb.html

Also, good luck competing on the 1st! :3

 

[Izanagi]

Meep's site is nice for learning Last 5 Centers cases including Z and H perms.

http://meep.cubing.net/skewb.html

Also, good luck competing on the 1st! :3

Ls and Us huh..... oh well, better this than 4 sledges I guess. *runs off to practice*

Also, thanks! xD

 

[Genesis]

Hi, anyone has an alg for oriented "Bowtie" with everything else solved?

 

[Ranzha]

Hi, anyone has an alg for oriented "Bowtie" with everything else solved?

This is often referred to as pure peanut.

I have an alg for it on this page.