Remove 3x3x3 with Feet as an Official Event?

[Meep]

This argument is invalid. My main event was Master Magic before it was removed, and now feet is my second best event.

It currently being your second best event doesn't invalidate the argument.

 

[slinky773]

WHAT?

This is the worst argument I have ever read... Please explain how somebody being able to sub-1 some event has anything to do with making said event official.
Or are you saying that any event that someone can't do sub-1 shouldn't be official? (6x6, 7x7, 4bld, 5bld, maybe also fmc and mbld depending how you think of it)
If so then that's even more stupid...

I think he was joking…

 

[Coolster01]

Guys, read the ENTIRE post next time, I said if it was sub 1 and then went on to say that that's about the speed barrier where it starts to become about turning fast and look ahead, NOT being able to turn it.

EDIT: And yes, I was joking because that's physically impossible with those handicaps. I was SPECIFICALLY talking about the 3x3 handicapped events. NOT ALL WCA EVENTS!!!!

EDIT 2: This brings up another thing. Non cubers are always grossed out, yet baffled when I tell them about the event. But they really can't imagine what it looks like, so they ask me to do it. I find that as soon as I start doing it, they aren't grossed out at all and are amazed just as much as when I do BLD. This is just from my experience, I'm just sayin' non cubers aren't grossed out when you show them.

 

[Sa967St]

Wait, how did feet solving become an official WCA competition anyway? TBH it sounds weird that a committee decided one day that they'd like to have people start solving with their feet. was it in popular demand once?

Anders Larsson told this story at the regulations meeting at Worlds. The tl;dr version is that the media wanted it and they it looked cool on TV, so it stuck as an event.

 

[XTowncuber]

Umm...what?

This is the entire thread in two sentences: Feet solvers like feet. Everyone else hates it.

This almost never happens for other events. I don't solve BLD or 7x7 or megaminx. I still fully enjoy those events, and see their value. I don't solve feet, and I genuinely dislike it. Sure, some people don't like certain events, everyone has their preferences. But there isn't any event that is disliked by the majority of the cubing community other than 3x3 with feet. If most people that love cubing dislike feetsolving, that is a perfectly valid reason to remove the event. It's ridiculous not to take the opinion of the majority into consideration when it comes to these issues.

I think feet solvers need to see how non-cubers (and non-feet solvers) truly view the event. It marginalizes speed cubing, it's a novelty, it's a sideshow. It takes a "weird" hobby, and makes it even weirder. The attention that feet solving gets from non-cubers isn't due to genuine interest or admiration, it's because it's incredibly odd and bizarre. It's not taken seriously by anyone other than feet solvers, and negatively affects the way the entire hobby is viewed. Get rid of it.

This. I do not enjoy BLD, but I would definitely argue to keep it. I do not enjoy OH, but I would argue to keep it. Feet is just gross. When someone sees a BLD or OH solve they think it's amazing. When they see a feet solve they think it's disgusting. Just get rid of it already.

 

[cubizh]

Hasn't this thread started as discussion to move feet to average of 5 instead of removal of feet?

 

[tim]

Non cubers are always grossed out

When they see a feet solve they think it's disgusting.

I don't have any strong opinions either way, but I'm really curious: Is it common for people to be grossed out when they hear about feet solving? Every time I tell non-cubers about my "ability" (~5min) to solve a cube with my feet, most of them are really amazed and want to see it immediately. Everyone else doesn't seem to care. But I've yet to come across someone who finds it "gross". o_O

Besides that, I might have an argument for keeping it: Having feet solving as an official event encourages people to actually practice it. So the WCA would be "responsible" (that word might be a bit of a stretch) for better flexibility of their cubers. There are people in our modern shoe society who can't even grab a footbag with their feet...

 

[Robocopter87]

I'm pretty sure that Oceania is the only popular cubing place in the world where feet solving times are slow.

Here in North America, we have quite a few people who are practicing all the time for NARs, which btw is not beaten very often even though these people compete in the event a lot. I really don't think 46.08 average and 39.00 is a cheap record.

Oh yeah, and South America has a sub-30 single a (35?) mean. Europe has 31 single and 38 mean. And Asia has WR single and average.

EDIT: That also is not a very encouraging post to all of the record holders who practice hours a day (sub-1 records).

It seems your whole argument for keeping feet is that you hold the national record and don't want to lose the event you are good at.

In order to solve a problem you have to look at it objectively, without letting your own ambitions get in the way. I'd be more down with Elbow Solving than with feet. I say toss feet, for the reasons Patrick Jameson had.

Then again, I never really minded feet as an event, but if I were to vote for the decision, I would be against feet.

 

[Rune]

I think we shoudn´t blame Anders so much as the Canadian(!) woman journalist, who interviewed him on phone before the WC 2003 in Toronto. Anders said more a less as a joke: "I have even done it with my feet"! She made a story of it and that way it went further.

 

[Kirjava]

I think we shoudn´t blame Anders so much as the Canadian(!) woman journalist, who interviewed him on phone before the WC 2003 in Toronto. Anders said more a less as a joke: "I have even done it with my feet"! She made a story of it and that way it went further.

oh my god

 

[scottishcuber]

i always knew feet was a joke...literally(?)

 

[Coolster01]

If it's gross, don't watch the event. Just have fun talking to other competitors, it's really not hard to ignore it because it's always on the side stage.

 

[tseitsei]

If it's gross, don't watch the event. Just have fun talking to other competitors, it's really not hard to ignore it because it's always on the side stage.

Again not a good argument at all...
That argument could be used to make literally ANYTHING official. "If you don't like it just ignore it"

So should we make solving rubiks cube naked an official event? I think not, because it's disturbing and quite gross(+ many other reasons). But hey maybe I should "just ignore it because I don't like it"

No just no... So wrong...

 

[Coolster01]

Again not a good argument at all...
That argument could be used to make literally ANYTHING official. "If you don't like it just ignore it"

So should we make solving rubiks cube naked an official event? I think not, because it's disturbing and quite gross(+ many other reasons). But hey maybe I should "just ignore it because I don't like it"

No just no... So wrong...

OK, you're right. That is an invalid argument.

It's really such a hard event that I spent all this time getting somewhat OK at. I just don't see how it's that disgusting, give a real life example of when it actually disturbed you or someone else. I've never seen anybody at a comp grossed out by feetsolving, I often see quite a crowd watching the event (Indiana 2012). Spectators love it.

 

[Kirjava]

OK, you're right. That is an invalid argument.

What is happening to this website

 

[BaMiao]

I just don't see how it's that disgusting, give a real life example of when it actually disturbed you or someone else. I've never seen anybody at a comp grossed out by feetsolving, I often see quite a crowd watching the event (Indiana 2012). Spectators love it.

The first time my wife saw feet solving, she furled her nose, turned to me, and said "you're not going to start doing that are you?" This might be unfair, since she's a huge germaphobe.

She then pulled out her phone and took a video, so she could laugh about it with her friends later. I don't think the crowd attention that feet gets is all positive. Train wrecks get lots of attention, too.

 

[uberCuber]

I've never seen anybody at a comp grossed out by feetsolving

Yeah, because the people that are grossed out by the event are doing their best to ignore the fact that it is happening, not standing in front of the feetsolvers and watching them while proclaiming to everyone around how gross it is.

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Train wrecks get lots of attention, too.

Did you just compare solving a Rubik's Cube with feet to train wrecks?

 

[Stefan]

Here's [post=890506]the best reason to remove feet[/post]. I wanna be there!

 

[BaMiao]

Did you just compare solving a Rubik's Cube with feet to train wrecks?

I was pointing out that crowd attention isn't always a good thing.