antoineccantin
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Lets remove feet and add skewb! Two problems with one shot.
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Lets remove feet and add skewb! Two problems with one shot.
Lets remove feet and add skewb! Two problems with one shot.
Can someone say what it would bean for Skewb to be a second class event? Would it be represented differently on the WCA sight? If it's just a label, everyone's going to ignore it, and big competitions will still have it.
I think skewb should not be second class or whatever. Tbh only feet should be second class. Basically, bigger comps wouldn't have to hold the event if they don't want to. So nationals wouldn't need to have feet. But I guess they really aren't fully obligated to hold every event, as Australian nays never have feet. So honestly this second class thing is not really useful.
You're basically saying that what makes an event second class is that "bigger comps wouldn't have to hold the event". That is not a real distinction. The whole point of a big comp is that it holds all events. They would still have skewb at big comps even if some sort of higher authority said that. It's a ridiculous idea.
Hold on, let me clear up that I'm not on any side of this argument, I was just adding to what stefan said about the class thing.
I see what you are saying, but I think you didn't read the last part of my post where I said that it's not useful. It really isn't a good idea. Just saying that Australian big comps don't have all events so it isn't against regulations or anything to not hold all events at big comps.
Obviously, since you can't have regulations about something not defined by the regulations.
Exactly. There you go.
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I said that because you used faulty logic to explain why "big comps" don't need to have every event.
Faulty logic: There was once a big comp where they didn't have every event.
Correct logic: There is no such thing as a big comp according to the regulations.
You know if we shouldn't add SKewb since it's "heavily" influenced by luck then why not remove all events influenced by luck. So that would be everything. 6x6 and 7x7 aren't affected by as everything else. But still.
the order of events by influence of luck would be. Something like this
2x2
pyraminx
3x3(and OH and Feet)
clock
3x3 BLD
Square 1
4x4 BLD
5x5 BLD
megaminx'
multi BLD
6x6
7x7
I think Sebastien is referring to Worlds and major international/continental championships like Euro, Asian championships, sudamericano and us nationals(?)
I think in the past couple years the WCA has realized that scheduling problems competitions have are getting out of hand.
if you've ever looked at Brazil, you'll see that nearly every, if not every, Brazilian comp hold the event.
+------------------------+------+-------+----------+
| countryId | feet | comps | percent |
+------------------------+------+-------+----------+
| Slovakia | 1 | 1 | 100.0000 |
| Latvia | 1 | 1 | 100.0000 |
| Lithuania | 1 | 1 | 100.0000 |
| Brazil | 32 | 35 | 91.4286 |
| Norway | 10 | 13 | 76.9231 |
| Hungary | 7 | 10 | 70.0000 |
| Slovenia | 2 | 3 | 66.6667 |
| Korea | 11 | 17 | 64.7059 |
| Czech Republic | 5 | 8 | 62.5000 |
| Finland | 11 | 18 | 61.1111 |
| Iran | 2 | 4 | 50.0000 |
| Ukraine | 4 | 8 | 50.0000 |
| Sweden | 15 | 30 | 50.0000 |
| Denmark | 12 | 25 | 48.0000 |
| Indonesia | 19 | 48 | 39.5833 |
| Poland | 20 | 53 | 37.7358 |
| Thailand | 6 | 17 | 35.2941 |
| Malaysia | 4 | 12 | 33.3333 |
| Taiwan | 8 | 26 | 30.7692 |
| Vietnam | 3 | 10 | 30.0000 |
| Estonia | 3 | 10 | 30.0000 |
| Colombia | 3 | 11 | 27.2727 |
| Spain | 12 | 44 | 27.2727 |
| United Kingdom | 5 | 19 | 26.3158 |
| Japan | 17 | 78 | 21.7949 |
| Netherlands | 7 | 33 | 21.2121 |
| France | 15 | 71 | 21.1268 |
| Hong Kong | 1 | 5 | 20.0000 |
| Germany | 10 | 55 | 18.1818 |
| China | 24 | 149 | 16.1074 |
| Philippines | 5 | 32 | 15.6250 |
| Russia | 2 | 13 | 15.3846 |
| Italy | 6 | 42 | 14.2857 |
| Belgium | 2 | 15 | 13.3333 |
| New Zealand | 1 | 8 | 12.5000 |
| Canada | 4 | 41 | 9.7561 |
| Mexico | 1 | 14 | 7.1429 |
| USA | 19 | 309 | 6.1489 |
| India | 2 | 43 | 4.6512 |
| Chile | 1 | 24 | 4.1667 |
| Macau | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Bosnia and Herzegovina | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Iceland | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Ireland | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Greece | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Croatia | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Jordan | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Turkey | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 |
| Israel | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 |
| Switzerland | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 |
| Serbia | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 |
| United Arab Emirates | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 |
| Portugal | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 |
| Argentina | 0 | 5 | 0.0000 |
| Singapore | 0 | 5 | 0.0000 |
| Austria | 0 | 6 | 0.0000 |
| Romania | 0 | 10 | 0.0000 |
| Peru | 0 | 14 | 0.0000 |
| Australia | 0 | 20 | 0.0000 |
+------------------------+------+-------+----------+
SELECT countryId, feet, comps, feet/comps*100 percent FROM
(SELECT countryId, count(distinct competitionId) comps, sum(if(eventId='333ft',1,0)) feet FROM
(SELECT DISTINCT competitionId, eventId, Competitions.countryId
FROM Results, Competitions
WHERE Competitions.id = competitionId) helper
GROUP BY countryId) helper2
ORDER BY feet/comps DESC, comps
bigger comps [...] Australian nats never have feet
OcR for feet must be the oldest Continental record it's 4 years old and held by Dene only one other person has completed a feet from Oceania and that was at worlds.Code:+------------------------+------+-------+----------+ | countryId | feet | comps | percent | +------------------------+------+-------+----------+ | Slovakia | 1 | 1 | 100.0000 | | Latvia | 1 | 1 | 100.0000 | | Lithuania | 1 | 1 | 100.0000 | | Brazil | 32 | 35 | 91.4286 | | Norway | 10 | 13 | 76.9231 | | Hungary | 7 | 10 | 70.0000 | | Slovenia | 2 | 3 | 66.6667 | | Korea | 11 | 17 | 64.7059 | | Czech Republic | 5 | 8 | 62.5000 | | Finland | 11 | 18 | 61.1111 | | Iran | 2 | 4 | 50.0000 | | Ukraine | 4 | 8 | 50.0000 | | Sweden | 15 | 30 | 50.0000 | | Denmark | 12 | 25 | 48.0000 | | Indonesia | 19 | 48 | 39.5833 | | Poland | 20 | 53 | 37.7358 | | Thailand | 6 | 17 | 35.2941 | | Malaysia | 4 | 12 | 33.3333 | | Taiwan | 8 | 26 | 30.7692 | | Vietnam | 3 | 10 | 30.0000 | | Estonia | 3 | 10 | 30.0000 | | Colombia | 3 | 11 | 27.2727 | | Spain | 12 | 44 | 27.2727 | | United Kingdom | 5 | 19 | 26.3158 | | Japan | 17 | 78 | 21.7949 | | Netherlands | 7 | 33 | 21.2121 | | France | 15 | 71 | 21.1268 | | Hong Kong | 1 | 5 | 20.0000 | | Germany | 10 | 55 | 18.1818 | | China | 24 | 149 | 16.1074 | | Philippines | 5 | 32 | 15.6250 | | Russia | 2 | 13 | 15.3846 | | Italy | 6 | 42 | 14.2857 | | Belgium | 2 | 15 | 13.3333 | | New Zealand | 1 | 8 | 12.5000 | | Canada | 4 | 41 | 9.7561 | | Mexico | 1 | 14 | 7.1429 | | USA | 19 | 309 | 6.1489 | | India | 2 | 43 | 4.6512 | | Chile | 1 | 24 | 4.1667 | | Macau | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Bosnia and Herzegovina | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Iceland | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Ireland | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Greece | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Croatia | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Jordan | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Turkey | 0 | 1 | 0.0000 | | Israel | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 | | Switzerland | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 | | Serbia | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 | | United Arab Emirates | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 | | Portugal | 0 | 2 | 0.0000 | | Argentina | 0 | 5 | 0.0000 | | Singapore | 0 | 5 | 0.0000 | | Austria | 0 | 6 | 0.0000 | | Romania | 0 | 10 | 0.0000 | | Peru | 0 | 14 | 0.0000 | | Australia | 0 | 20 | 0.0000 | +------------------------+------+-------+----------+ SELECT countryId, feet, comps, feet/comps*100 percent FROM (SELECT countryId, count(distinct competitionId) comps, sum(if(eventId='333ft',1,0)) feet FROM (SELECT DISTINCT competitionId, eventId, Competitions.countryId FROM Results, Competitions WHERE Competitions.id = competitionId) helper GROUP BY countryId) helper2 ORDER BY feet/comps DESC, comps
AustralianNationals2010 - 39 competitors
AustralianNationals2011 - 35 competitors
AustralianNationals2012 - 41 competitors
Aww... you so cute!
(all competitons so far have averaged 48.8 competitors, btw)
OcR for feet must be the oldest Continental record it's 4 years old and held by Dene only one other person has completed a feet from Oceania and that was at worlds.