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sneaklyfox said:
Anyway, Zhanchi is just a Zhanchi. All the cubes probably need lubing and tensioning, but I can tell that I'm definitely going to have a new main. Which one? Not sure yet, but as I already know somewhat about Zhanchi, I think it's more likely my main is going to be the ShuangRen or the WeiLong. My first impression is that I actually prefer the feel of the ShuangRen which was a surprise because the sandy sound from reviews I've watched made me think I might not like it. I hate the stickers on it though. The MoYu stickers are nicer looking. (I ordered all 3 as black cubes.) Anyway, I'm going to tinker with them (lubing, tensioning, restickering) and play for a few days before deciding for sure.
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Sorry for double post. So I've played with SR and WL for a few days now and also the ZC for half a day. In order of favourite to least favourite:

#1 Fangshi ShuangRen - This is my new main! I really love it and the feeling has totally grown on me. I was really not expecting that to happen from the gritty sound of it in the reviews but it's really pleasant for me. It's smooth feeling and corner cuts well. I've only had 1 corner twist out of ~500 solves (I've heard of issues with corner twisting but it's not an issue for me... perhaps turning style or tension?) No pops yet. Basically, I will say it's smooth like how I love my Guhong but less blocky with better corner cutting and more control. It's awesome and I love it.

#2 Dayan Zhanchi - With some breaking in I can tell it will be an enjoyable cube to use. I'll probably use it now and then. What do I need to say? A Zhanchi is a Zhanchi. It's still an awesome cube. I just love my ShuangRen more.

#3 Moyu WeiLong - Yeah, a bit of a disappointment there. I thought it would be really great but at first turns I was already not terribly sold on it. After lubing and tensioning and such it was a little better I guess but I can't get myself to like it even if I wanted to like it. I don't like the airy bubbly feeling or the uncontrollable speed. Basically it's a slippery cube. Faster than anything I've felt, but I prefer control. Stock stickers are the best but who cares about those. You buy cubes for the cube itself, not the stickers. I tried tightening it and overlubing it but not to much effect except tighter meant more locky. I get locks on it because the slipperiness makes layers get out of alignment too easily. Then sometimes I think they're aligned and try to make an R' turn or something and something else turns instead. I also got much worse times on it though very intentionally going slow on F2L helped some. Well, even if I could get good times on it (at least equal with other cubes), I don't like the feeling. Too bad.
 
sneaklyfox said:
Sorry for double post. So I've played with SR and WL for a few days now and also the ZC for half a day. In order of favourite to least favourite:

#1 Fangshi ShuangRen - This is my new main! I really love it and the feeling has totally grown on me. I was really not expecting that to happen from the gritty sound of it in the reviews but it's really pleasant for me. It's smooth feeling and corner cuts well. I've only had 1 corner twist out of ~500 solves (I've heard of issues with corner twisting but it's not an issue for me... perhaps turning style or tension?) No pops yet. Basically, I will say it's smooth like how I love my Guhong but less blocky with better corner cutting and more control. It's awesome and I love it.

#2 Dayan Zhanchi - With some breaking in I can tell it will be an enjoyable cube to use. I'll probably use it now and then. What do I need to say? A Zhanchi is a Zhanchi. It's still an awesome cube. I just love my ShuangRen more.

#3 Moyu WeiLong - Yeah, a bit of a disappointment there. I thought it would be really great but at first turns I was already not terribly sold on it. After lubing and tensioning and such it was a little better I guess but I can't get myself to like it even if I wanted to like it. I don't like the airy bubbly feeling or the uncontrollable speed. Basically it's a slippery cube. Faster than anything I've felt, but I prefer control. Stock stickers are the best but who cares about those. You buy cubes for the cube itself, not the stickers. I tried tightening it and overlubing it but not to much effect except tighter meant more locky. I get locks on it because the slipperiness makes layers get out of alignment too easily. Then sometimes I think they're aligned and try to make an R' turn or something and something else turns instead. I also got much worse times on it though very intentionally going slow on F2L helped some. Well, even if I could get good times on it (at least equal with other cubes), I don't like the feeling. Too bad.
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I am between ShuangRen and Weilong. No Zhanchi feels good after solving the previous two. ;) I ordered a new white Weilong (since I want to keep the prototype with it's original stickers) and with pink stickers it might become my main. Right now my ShuangRen with pink stickers is my main. I just love that cube. Only I have probably one every 25 solves a corner twist. Tightening the cube works on that part. But then it looses it's magical feeling and becomes slow.
 
I really want the MoYu now seeing as I'm always looking for what other people think is uncontrollable

Oh and I have ShuangRen and a modded Zhanchi (Lagom's edge mod, CPM, corner base mods) and I have to say I can't decide between the two
 
Lchu613 said:
I really want the MoYu now seeing as I'm always looking for what other people think is uncontrollable

Oh and I have ShuangRen and a modded Zhanchi (Lagom's edge mod, CPM, corner base mods) and I have to say I can't decide between the two
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How does Langom do the edge mod? Is it just the 48 PEM?

sneaklyfox said:
#3 Moyu WeiLong - Yeah, a bit of a disappointment there. I thought it would be really great but at first turns I was already not terribly sold on it. After lubing and tensioning and such it was a little better I guess but I can't get myself to like it even if I wanted to like it. I don't like the airy bubbly feeling or the uncontrollable speed. Basically it's a slippery cube. Faster than anything I've felt, but I prefer control. Stock stickers are the best but who cares about those. You buy cubes for the cube itself, not the stickers. I tried tightening it and overlubing it but not to much effect except tighter meant more locky. I get locks on it because the slipperiness makes layers get out of alignment too easily. Then sometimes I think they're aligned and try to make an R' turn or something and something else turns instead. I also got much worse times on it though very intentionally going slow on F2L helped some. Well, even if I could get good times on it (at least equal with other cubes), I don't like the feeling. Too bad.
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I'm probably going to love the Weilong. I love fast cubes that are uncontrollable :D
Sorry for going so off topic Marcel :/
 
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For me, the effect of having so many good cubes now is that I don't really have a main any more. I pick up a different cube and enjoy something about it compared to the last one, so use that for a day or two. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
 
mark49152 said:
For me, the effect of having so many good cubes now is that I don't really have a main any more. I pick up a different cube and enjoy something about it compared to the last one, so use that for a day or two. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
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It's a bad thing when you are sub10 ;) when slower it's a good thing to get used to different cubes I think.
 
MarcelP said:
It's a bad thing when you are sub10 ;) when slower it's a good thing to get used to different cubes I think.
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Yeah I would define "bad" as impairing progress, but it's impossible to know whether progress would have been better without having switched cubes. Anyway trying lots of cubes is part of the fun regardless of progress. :D
 
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