cyoubx
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Sorry, that was a poor response to qqwref's comment regarding a cube cut into slices along each face axis.
What the Seven Towns Copyright Covers
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Sorry, that was a poor response to qqwref's comment regarding a cube cut into slices along each face axis.
Stefan
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I kinda suspected that, but on the other hand, Rubik's 2x2x2 came out well before 2007, so that didn't make sense.
AvGalen
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JF1zl3
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I very much like this idea, if it must come to this.
1LastSolve
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From what I know, this doesn't affect White Cubes since the IMAGE is copyrighted. I'm not 100% Sure, but it may work, because I bought a DaYan PanShi (White) and Seven Towns didn't destroy it.
I am 100% Sure that D.I.Y Kits aren't affected by the copyright, and this has been confirmed by many people.
EDIT: 4 x 4 & Up are COMPLETELY unaffected.
I am 100% Sure that D.I.Y Kits aren't affected by the copyright, and this has been confirmed by many people.
EDIT: 4 x 4 & Up are COMPLETELY unaffected.
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Stefan
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Right, if you murder someone and nobody finds out, must mean it's legal.
1LastSolve
Regular
What the...... That was completely randumb.
Olji
Premium Member
Not really, customs doesn't check every package that enters, just because they didn't check your package doesn't mean it would not be affected by this.
I don't really see how they would be able to check every package that enters any country, that would require too much resources to pull off.
I don't really see how they would be able to check every package that enters any country, that would require too much resources to pull off.
Stefan
Legend
fixed that for you
jayefbe
Veteran
Not at all random, nor dumb. Your Panshi arrived because it wasn't one of the very small minority of packages that are opened by customs.
Also, unless you have verified sources for your information, don't just post your opinions as facts (white cubes are ok, 4x4 and up are unaffected, DIYs are fine). The copyright laws are sufficiently vague, and the way they are enacted are so arbitrary, that all of those cubes could be confiscated just as easily.
noob
Member
Haha I did except it sucked so I got mad and smashed it and I have two dayans coming along the way but I heard that customs are destroying all dayans so I'm a bit nervous...
But $3,750,000 for a huge company Seven towns would mean nothing :/
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sneaklyfox
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All my cubes came fine and nobody destroyed them and they're mostly black. It doesn't mean anything.
MaikeruKonare
Regular
If they ban china from using rubik color scheme, we will buy chinese cubes and rubik stickers and APPLY THE STICKERS TO THE CHINESE CUBE. Rubik doesn't realize how them doing this only hurts the speedcubing community, as we will have to buy stickers.
1LastSolve
Regular
Ahhh.... Now I see what Stefan did there LOL.
I should have explained where I got the info from...
Okay, first, 4 x 4's. Calvin Fan (according to CBC) stated that he has never had a problem with Seven Towns, because he Only sells 3 x 3 D.I.Y Kits.
Now, If Calvin never had a problem with Seven Towns, but he sells Assembled 4 x 4's/Other big cubes to MASSIVE amounts of people, I think it's safe to assume that 4 x 4's are safe.
2nd, White Cubes. Like I said, I'm not 100% Sure about white cubes, but I've heard in multiple places that White Cubes are safe. I don't exactly know where, but I've heard it
from multiple people. Many of my friends and I have bought White Cubes, and it never got affected. Like I said, I don't know if this one is true. From what I know, a Image of the Rubik's Cube
is patented, and Rubik's Cubes are Black, unlike White cubes.
3rd, D.I.Y Kits. Calvin Fan, (According to CBC again) weren't an issue because Calvin Fan only sells D.I.Y Kits for 3 x 3's, and NONE of his sold cubes were taken, so it's safe to assume that is safe.
What I said up there was admittedly a Statement backed up with poor information when I could have backed it up with better information. I should have thought a bit more before posting it, and put better information into it.
Final Comment: I'd rather say an incorrect statement or statement without backup, look like a fool because of the way people reply on it, and learn something from it than not learn anything by keeping silent. So correct me, because It'll make me more educated about this stuff.
cannon4747
Regular
My view on this after reading this thread (which is much more mature than the other one btw) is that any 3x3x3 mechanical turning puzzle cube is considered a copyright infringement by Seven Towns and under most copyright law. Taking it apart or changing colors will not change that. There are no loopholes, every package opened by customs is subject to the judgement of that specific customs worker who opened it. We run a risk by purchasing cubes from other countries. The online stores within our own countries also take this risk, but they take it for us so that we don't have to (directly).
Overall, we hate it but it's just something we're gonna have to deal with unless Seven Towns and the major speedcube manufacturers actually start negotiating and come to some sort of agreement. It would also help for them to get involved with community discussion and not just leave us to suffer without knowing what's actually going on. But hey, that's capitalism. I can't fault them for trying to defend their product.
My opinion of this whole issue has changed many times in an attempt to be unbiased, so don't criticize me based on past posts showing apparent contrary opinions.
Overall, we hate it but it's just something we're gonna have to deal with unless Seven Towns and the major speedcube manufacturers actually start negotiating and come to some sort of agreement. It would also help for them to get involved with community discussion and not just leave us to suffer without knowing what's actually going on. But hey, that's capitalism. I can't fault them for trying to defend their product.
My opinion of this whole issue has changed many times in an attempt to be unbiased, so don't criticize me based on past posts showing apparent contrary opinions.
Coolster01
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I bought a ShengShou Aurora from wallbuys. Will it get destroyed? 
It's been 2 weeks and it's not here. That's normal from China, riiiggghhht?
EDIT: assembled and black :/
It's been 2 weeks and it's not here. That's normal from China, riiiggghhht?EDIT: assembled and black :/
jayefbe
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First, spreading misinformation is always bad. If you're unsure of anything, if it's information based on rumors or from unverified sources (like CBC, for example!) than make it abundantly clear that the information shouldn't be treated as fact.
CBC is not a reliable source.
Just because you don't know of any white cubes that have been confiscated does not mean they can't or won't. How many cases do we even know of having occurred within the last few months? ONE?! So of the ONE confirmed event, there weren't any white cubes confiscated. That tells us absolutely NOTHING about whether or not white cubes will be affected. Ditto for DIY.
Again, the copyright laws are sufficiently vague, and on top of that, the law is applied in a seemingly arbitrary manner. Anyone saying "x is affected and y isn't" don't know what they're talking about, because, at this point, nobody does. Again, I've only heard of the single instance of a cube being destroyed. Absolutely no hard and fast conclusions can be made from that information.
BrainOfSweden
Premium Member
I bought a ShengShou Aurora from wallbuys. Will it get destroyed?
EDIT: assembled and black :/
Since Wallbuys is a cheap wholesale store, it's pretty normal, my mini 2x2's from dealextreme took over a month iirc. If there's any trouble with customs, you should be informed. And if you only ordered one cube, I find unlikely that customs will even open the package.
cannon4747
Regular
It seems that the copyright laws are vague enough for ST to seem like they have the rights to the product regardless of whether or not they do. Nobody is willing to spend the massive amounts of money to contest their claim, so this will go on as long as ST decides it should.
mark49152
Premium Member
Lots of pointless speculation on this thread. Seven Towns are never going to come out and say "sure if your plastic's pink or stickers are purple we're OK with it." Also nobody really cares about tiny individual shipments to consumers - they are just caught in the crossfire.
The best thing to do is just exercise a bit of common sense. Don't buy $100's of stuff in one shipment - it's more likely to attract attention and you have more to lose.
The best thing to do is just exercise a bit of common sense. Don't buy $100's of stuff in one shipment - it's more likely to attract attention and you have more to lose.
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