Seven Towns vs. Dayan - Color Scheme Copyright Infringment

[BerserkerProMC]

Yay purple.
I don't care about this at all. I can resticker it if I want. What's the big deal?

Maybe if the WCA follows these rules, they have to check if the cube is a Rubik's brand, and if it's not, they would have to check for the purple stickers... Idk... I'm just guessing.

 

[frenzen]

man dont ever buy rubiks brand, no matter what I dare you.

 

[jonlin]

What was this video about?

 

[frenzen]

Color Scheme Copyright meaning that Dayan wont able to sell you their cubes with normal scheme and there are some people who bought their cubes and didnt receive them, since seven towns filled a copyright and etc. They want cubers to buy rubiks cube brand and are sponsoring 2013. Just watch the video

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUO25orCVCU

 

[PeelingStickers]

The WCA regulations are not based on the brand and allows "KO's". It does not matter what cube you use, it will be legal in competition so long as the function of the puzzle is the same.

 

[Yuxuibbs]

I would be fine with having 2 colors swapped so it wouldn't be copyrighted. You can just take apart the edges/corners and put them back together in the right color scheme.

 

[YddEd]

I would be fine with having 2 colors swapped so it wouldn't be copyrighted. You can just take apart the edges/corners and put them back together in the right color scheme.

And if you don't have a Dayan cube..?

 

[Michael Womack]

The WCA regulations are not based on the brand and allows "KO's". It does not matter what cube you use, it will be legal in competition so long as the function of the puzzle is the same.

I agree with this. But for a puzzle to me Competition legal has to be in compliant with article 3 of the WCA regulations see http://worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/#article-3-puzzles and Article 3M states this "All brands of puzzles and puzzle parts are permitted, as long as the puzzles comply with all WCA Regulations."

 

[Yuxuibbs]

And if you don't have a Dayan cube..?

buy new stickers
or just hope the mechanism allows it to happen?

a lot of people prefer half brights and stuff so people are going to resticker anyway

 

[Username]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMoR6gnwbGU

You don't need to spam that

 

[AvGalen]

For me it is very obvious that everyone is copying the colors of the official Rubik's cube and that they are doing that on purpose to get extra sales.
I don't want to argue about IF a colorscheme should be possible to be protected by law, because that is useless. Obviously it CAN be protected and HAS been protected.
V-Cube and EastSheen know this and avoided the colorscheme.
Lots of other companies are trying to make their cubes look just like the official one and that is clearly against the law (like it or not).

Why do all these other companies not just sell cubes with red opposite to green, or black/purple/grey/whatever other colors? It would require a minimal change for them to comply with the law but they prefer to break it anyway. The only reason that I can think of is that they gain financially.

 

[BrainOfSweden]

But the speedcubing companies would know that even if they change their color scheme, only sell DIY's, sell them unstickered or whatever, we, their target audience will still buy them if they are good, and likely resticker them anyway.

The cheap KO's on the other hand of course wants to look as Rubiks-like as possible, and I don't mind them being shut down, because they are the ones hurting Seven Towns financially and possibly reputation wise too, if people think they bought a Rubik's brand that's even crappier than the real deal.

 

[Stefan]

Why do all these other companies not just sell cubes with red opposite to green, or black/purple/grey/whatever other colors? It would require a minimal change for them to comply with the law but they prefer to break it anyway. The only reason that I can think of is that they gain financially.

How about the obvious? I don't want that color scheme because it's Rubik's, I want it because I'm used to it and am best with it. Not all schemes are equal, this one is now functionally better than others.

This is nothing like the actually despicable unnecessary copying like these:

Same continent colors, same stand. Why? No functional reason. Purely to look like the original.

Similar purplish+black background, similar logo, same slogan "the 21st century cube". Why? No functional reason. Purely to look like the original.
(I believe I've even seen a clone using V-Cube's triangular packaging, though I was unable to find it again now. Anyone?)

 

[Michael Womack]

Pochmann what about The Ruibik's clock and the newer ones?

 

[ben1996123]

Pochmann what about The Ruibik's clock and the newer ones?

not sure if you've realised but clock doesnt have stickers

 

[Michael Womack]

not sure if you've realised but clock doesnt have stickers

This is true nether did the Rubik's World that Pochmann mentioned.

 

[ben1996123]

This is true nether did the Rubik's World that Pochmann mentioned.

yeah but that has colours on it

 

[Stefan]

Pochmann what about The Ruibik's clock and the newer ones?

Right, I didn't think of those. Very good example indeed. Especially this one which copies the look of the puzzle and the box and uses "Rubik's".

(Womack right and Ben wrong, what the hell is happening?)

 

[The Doctor]

I agree with the fact that Rubik's is protecting their image from some knock offs, and that DaYan (and other companies if need be) are complying with it, but instead of just a new color scheme or selling their stickers, why don't they just try to get permission from Seven Towns? And if Rubik's really wants to get to the speed-cubers of the world too, then they need to make speed-cubes? Five years working on a speed cube design? Hope it's worth that time. And that article about speed cubing and how Rubik's isn't used in it, sounds like it was written by someone who's heard the word speed-cube once.
Of course we don't use Rubik's, they do realize how bad their cubes are when it comes to speed right? Yes, like all people I started with their brands, smoothing the inside, lubing it, I even took the rivets out and managed to get a good screw and spring thing on mine, but in the end, they suck. And they say that we're sacrificing durability for speed? I bought a Rubik's brand 3x3 a few months ago (for modding purposes) and around the same time I got a new DaYan Zhanchi, as I wanted a stickered one, and I used the Rubik's brand, so rarely, it wasn't even existent, when I was really cubing, just when I was working on my schematics for the modding stuff I'm working on, so it just sat on their little display thing. It's practically useless now, from non-usage for a few months, it doesn't even turn anymore, it's a paperweight, at it's finest moment. But my ZhanChi, which I didn't use as often either, due to having a better main, still turns perfectly, and even the stickers that came with it outlasted the others, which were peeling in a week.
So just try to compete with the speed-cube shops, not inhibit their sales, you're already the number one most bought item in the world Rubik's Brand Cube, you're still selling other stuff, and their also knocking off a few people themselves, so yeah.

 

[Yuxuibbs]

Similar purplish+black background, similar logo, same slogan "the 21st century cube". Why? No functional reason. Purely to look like the original.
(I believe I've even seen a clone using V-Cube's triangular packaging, though I was unable to find it again now. Anyone?)

I'll post a picture of my x cube 7 packaging when I find a camera. it's literally the v cube triangular packaging but with an X instead of a V.

EDIT: or you could just watch my unboxing I didn't have a decent camera at the time but it's obvious enough