LHC didn't kill us yet

[Rama]

Now that's just taking us as a product of evolution over millions of years.

Evolution is not real, Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.

 

[nitrocan]

Evolution might be real, might not be real, but scientists are very close to proving it.

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

That's a good idea, lightspeed cubers

 

[hawkmp4]

Now that's just taking us as a product of evolution over millions of years.

Evolution is not real, Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.

Your reasoning? (I'm hoping this is a sarcastic post...)

We might never know for sure a proven reason for why organisms are they way they are but all evidence suggests and the scientific consensus agrees with evolution.

 

[CAT13]

hmm I thought we were done with this arguement

Yeah, I thought you weren't gonna look at this thread anymore?

I changed my mind



And lets try not to get into a religious debate

 

[hawkmp4]

I wasn't going to bring it up, but its kinda hard to avoid when someone says something like that :/

 

[badmephisto]

Now that's just taking us as a product of evolution over millions of years.

Evolution is not real, Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.

I didn't want to believe it at first either! I mean... Noah's tale where he takes a pair of every animal in the entire world on a boat makes perfect sense! Those were dark days for me Even to this day I struggle... Should I choose a logical explanation, or should I listen to a 2000 year old compilation of books, written by men, and compiled/edited and filtered by other men living 1000 years later? Why is life so hard..

 

[Guoguodi]

Don't listen to badmephisto! He has 666 posts!! 0mg, he is the devilz0r !!1!

 

[Dene]

On another note, I don't think it will ever be possible for us to create any machine that can outsmart us. Sure, they can do stuff loads faster than we can, but thats just speed, not ability. No matter what you do, a computer can only execute instructions, exactly what you give it. If I were to tell you to go to the bank, withdraw 10$, then come back and you were forced to follow my instructions exactly without doing anything else, how could you possibly make your own decisions? Computers are machines, we are humans. By definition, humans are conscious, machines are not.

-Alexei

You already have a problem then, there are already computers that are almost as fast as the human brain. A quote from Nick Bostrom: "The fastest supercomputer today is IBM's Blue Gene/L, which has attained 260 Tops (2.6*10^14 ops). The Moravec estimate of the human brain's processing power (10^14 ops) has thus now been exceeded". This is, however, a lower estimate, and some people say the human brain is as fast as 10^18 ops. That was in 2005.

And I am talking about a computer that learns just as a human does, except far more efficiently. Yes it is possible, if you think not you are foolishly wrong.

Also, I have no idea where you get this idea of a human being conscious by definition and a machine not, but you have need a dictionary. I just checked dictionary.com for "human" and "machine". Neither of the definitions given under the first result mentioned consciousness.

Now that's just taking us as a product of evolution over millions of years.

Evolution is not real, Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.

I didn't want to believe it at first either! I mean... Noah's tale where he takes a pair of every animal in the entire world on a boat makes perfect sense! Those were dark days for me Even to this day I struggle... Should I choose a logical explanation, or should I listen to a 2000 year old compilation of books, written by men, and compiled/edited and filtered by other men living 1000 years later? Why is life so hard..

My lecturer made a very amusing statement about this one day. It was very spur of the moment (even for him) so it's hard to remember exactly, but he was talking about Aristotle, and how he thought all organisms reproduce sexually. He then made an extremely funny comment about how Noah must have had an interesting time gathering up all the bacteria and making them have sex, or something like that

 

[fanwuq]

Noah's tale makes no sense. Evilution is seems biased too many fake missing link fossils. That suggests a certain belief/faith of evolution. In order to be purely not religious, I must condemn evolution as the ultimate evil religion. It is just fake atheism in disguise. I arrive at the conclusion that people have never existed. We are just figments of each other's imaginations.

I don't really care actually, just trying to confuse people.

 

[pcharles93]

Noah's tale makes no sense. Evilution is seems biased too many fake missing link fossils. That suggests a certain belief/faith of evolution. In order to be purely not religious, I must condemn evolution as the ultimate evil religion. It is just fake atheism in disguise. I arrive at the conclusion that people have never existed. We are just figments of each other's imaginations.

I don't really care actually, just trying to confuse people.

Wow, CAT13 is pretty cruel then. I mean, who imagines starving children in Africa.

 

[Rama]

Now that's just taking us as a product of evolution over millions of years.

Evolution is not real, Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.

Your reasoning? (I'm hoping this is a sarcastic post...)

We might never know for sure a proven reason for why organisms are they way they are but all evidence suggests and the scientific consensus agrees with evolution.

How can you proofe that God doesn't exists, it's impossible, because God exists.
I do not talk by ''scientific evidence'', but by faith.
Science is useless when it comes to God....

And don't say ''And why is there starvation etc...'', I will quote something I heard a few months ago, so I am not sure I will quote it exactly, but the meaning of it is understandable: ''Joy is not the absence of pain, but the presence of God''.

 

[nitrocan]

How can you proofe that God doesn't exists, it's impossible, because God exists.

Nobody can prove if God exists or not. It's simply belief.

 

[hawkmp4]

Now that's just taking us as a product of evolution over millions of years.

Evolution is not real, Jesus is the way and the truth and the life.

Your reasoning? (I'm hoping this is a sarcastic post...)

We might never know for sure a proven reason for why organisms are they way they are but all evidence suggests and the scientific consensus agrees with evolution.

How can you proofe that God doesn't exists, it's impossible, because God exists.
I do not talk by ''scientific evidence'', but by faith.
Science is useless when it comes to God....

And don't say ''And why is there starvation etc...'', I will quote something I heard a few months ago, so I am not sure I will quote it exactly, but the meaning of it is understandable: ''Joy is not the absence of pain, but the presence of God''.

And God is useless when it comes to science.

Did I EVER say God doesn't exist?
Ever?
And that's your opinion, don't try and push it as fact.
Personally, I don't know if there is a god or divine being/s or not...but I don't care, if I live my life in a good and moral manner if that god is good then he will like me
But that's faith.
The proof is there for evolution. And there's a hell of a lot of proof. Just because its called the theory of evolution does not mean that its unsupported.

 

[fanwuq]

There's is no proof for evolution. It's just a hoax by Darwin. It is the most evil religion of all. He secretly wanted everyone to believe in evolution so that he can become a sort of god to the so called non religious people.
All efforts to prove Evolutions are not objective. They are biased to begin with. The do not simply ask questions and analyze the data. They alter the numbers to make all discoveries support evolution. This is the greatest crime of religions. It must not interfere with true science.
Evolution is mostly rooted in racism. That's why there is social Darwinism. That's the original purpose of evolution. People try to proof that they are more advanced than others.

 

[Rama]

And God is useless when it comes to science.

In chemistry, Jesus turned water into wine.
In Biology, Jesus was born without the normal conception.
In physics, Jesus disproved the law of gravity when He ascended to Heaven.

The proof is there for evolution. And there's a hell of a lot of proof. Just because its called the theory of evolution does not mean that its unsupported.

Evolution in a picture.
Look! The cheese is also full of holes.

Personally, I don't know if there is a god or divine being/s or not...but I don't care, if I live my life in a good and moral manner if that god is good then he will like me
But that's faith.

It's useless to do good deeds, if theres no relationship with God.

 

[Harris Chan]

Come on guys, it was ancient aliens from outer space who did all this evolution. They performed hybrids and testing on early humans and create the modern human today. Ascended to Heaven? The UFO beamed Him up. Light from Heaven? It was the saucer in the sky.

(Intended as jokes)

 

[badmephisto]

haha Harris that sounds almost like Scientology to me

anyway, in the academic circles (people that study this stuff for their entire lives), evolution is not disputed at all, and on my university I have not found a single person that would question any part of it. I'm sad that there are layman out there who think that there is a big controversy surrounding the issue, and that we are all picking sides, when in fact this issue was in reality settled by all people with IQ > 90. Please educate yourself. Go on YouTube, search evolution, and listen through a couple of videos. just... unbelievable.
over and out

 

[Rama]

just... unbelievable.
over and out

It's certainly unbelieveable that you don't believe in God.

 

[cmhardw]

Why must God and evolution be mutually exclusive? That's my question. Yes aside from the fact that by creationism we were created a short time ago (by evolution standards). Still things like fruit flies, mayflies, or bacteria with a short lifespan can still evolve, even if we were created a short time ago.

It makes no sense to me that people think it's impossible that both can't be true.

Chris