[Help Thread] Skewb Discussion

[tx789]

My method:

I have seen it

I want to make my own method but it hard to think of one

 

[Ranzha]

Currently compiling a 2-side recognition list to solve L4C (FRBD) + CLL.
You know, after solving Welder's Mask (layer + L centre), you only have to look at these six stickers

to recognise for the rest of the solve.

 

[Ranzha]

Finished 2-side recognition list with UFR as WOG.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AltgEkDH4PZQdDYzMzJVMXVmRmd1MEZwaUhpbkVSQkE#gid=0

 

[tx789]

Any place or app that allows you to gen algs
where were the algs for kirmeep and sarah's (and Ranzha's) method generated

 

[Xishem]

Any place or app that allows you to gen algs
where were the algs for kirmeep and sarah's (and Ranzha's) method generated

There aren't any public skewb solvers that I know of. I think Meep has one, and his algs were generated using a solver, but I know that Ranzha's algs were generated by hand.

 

[Meep]

There aren't any public skewb solvers that I know of. I think Meep has one, and his algs were generated using a solver, but I know that Ranzha's algs were generated by hand.

I've uploaded and shared it on these forums before, but they require MATLAB or Octave to use (And Windows, to input the state of the puzzle). Can download it here if you want to try and get it running.

 

[pepkin88]

I'm currently working on an online solver (in a browser), but I don't know when it would be ready. Anyway it should be ready rather soon.

 

[Ranzha]

Any place or app that allows you to gen algs
where were the algs for kirmeep and sarah's (and Ranzha's) method generated

I've archived the old Acubist solver here: http://bit.ly/skewbsolver091b
However, I have only generated two algorithms from that solver that I actually use: Peanut and Anticlockwise Windmill.

I'm currently working on an online solver (in a browser), but I don't know when it would be ready. Anyway it should be ready rather soon.

Woohoo! Looking forward to this.

Octave

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3saif7/

 

[Meep]

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3saif7/

You can use Octave in Windows, you know.

 

[Ranzha]

You can use Octave in Windows, you know.

Oh. Found it now. Thanks xD

 

[Schmidt]

"My" Skewb solving method:

1. Solve top layer
2. If opp. color is not on the bottom put opp. on F and go up up down down
3. Solve Ua Ub H or Z
4. Solve good case up up down down * 2 or <- y' <- for bad case
5. Done.

 

[Ranzha]

"My" Skewb solving method:

1. Solve top layer
2. If opp. color is not on the bottom put opp. on F and go up up down down
3. Solve Ua Ub H or Z
4. Solve good case up up down down * 2 or <- y' <- for bad case
5. Done.

So after U layer, if D is unsolved, you use the 4-mover, and if D is solved, you use L4C?

We need a name for the 4-mover.

 

[mitch1234]

Skewb is icky, it turns weird.

 

[Schmidt]

So after U layer, if D is unsolved, you use the 4-mover, and if D is solved, you use L4C?

We need a name for the 4-mover.

Yes. But there is not much control in it. F and D swaps, L and R swaps so there is a bit of prediction.

 

[Xishem]

How many L6C cases are there?

 

[Sa967St]

How many L6C cases are there?

14.

3 U perm things.
3 Z perm things.
2 H perm things.
2 Xs.
2 Swirls.
2 Wats.

edit: Oops, misread your question. This is just L5C.

 

[Ranzha]

How many L6C cases are there?

There is no such thing as a 6-cycle, so this helps the calculation.

6 centres: 9
2-swap + 4-cycles: 4
Two 3-cycles: 5

Add this 9 to L5C's 14 to get 23 unique L6C cases.

 

[Meep]

How many L6C cases are there?

Relative to a fixed corner, there are 360 (includes the solved state, but doesn't account for symmetries).

Here are the move count distributions for some subsets of the puzzle, for anyone interested.

 

[tx789]

Relative to a fixed corner, there are 360 (includes the solved state, but doesn't account for symmetries).

Here are the move count distributions for some subsets of the puzzle, for anyone interested.

6! (Factorial) ?

 

[Meep]

6! (Factorial) ?

6!/2 because the faces must have an even permutation.