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We are happy to announce the Speedsolving.com Wiki:
http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki

For now, anyone can edit/add content. If it starts getting abused, that will change.

If you have something to add, please feel free to do so. You can find a guide on editing these pages here.

If you have any questions/comments/suggestions regarding this, please feel free to let me know.

Expect many more features added to this soon.
 
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I suggest making it at wiki.speedsolving.com, with speedsolving.com/wiki redirecting.
At least, could we take the index.php out of http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page?

Anyhow, I like this attempt. With a nice URL (that does way more than it should), and reasonable exposure, this could finally succeed.

I've already made Sune and Niklas, and I'm going to create lots of pages to help this, and I'll try to make others help. (qqwref is helping, and made a pretty 2x2x2 methods page.) I think we'll be in a draft stage for a few months, but eventually have a great place to send newcomers who don't use Google. :rolleyes:

Also, can we have a contest for a cool puzzle logo? The Wikipedia logo is already a puzzle, and I'm sure one of us would come up with something really creative for the wiki.
 
I'll make a separate post, because I think this is important enough to warrant it...

Unlike Wikipedia, could we allow (semi-)original research to be posted, and have some format for it. Apart from general cubing knowledge, there are a lot of obscure things known by few cubers, and their sites are not nearly as easy to find for unknown info.

For example, I would like to post my OLL parity on the page about big even cube OLL parity, but it would be weird to say "Lucas Garron has found an alternate parity alg to the 'standard' one, which he and some people consider to be better. Among others, 4x4x4 and NAR holder Dan Cohen has adopted it." I'd like to be able to post something like "Lucas Garron: I found this parity alg using ACube, and I like it better than the standard one." and if people like the info, they can use it.
(That's one lovely thing about math, and some of cubing: If you write something, it's either true or not, and readers can decide whether they want to accept it.)


Okay, long example, but PJK, would you be for creating "Original Research" sections?
We'd still have to encourage good use, but I would find it a great tool for contribution.
 
Lucas Garron said:
I suggest making it at wiki.speedsolving.com, with speedsolving.com/wiki redirecting.
At least, could we take the index.php out of http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page?
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I agree with taking the index out of that directory, but I don't agree with making it wiki.speedsolving.com unless you want to do that with other sections of the site too. Its nice to have the uniformity of all sites being in either the format <www.speedsolving.com/site> or <site.speedsolving.com>... but not both.

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I second the research thing too, but why not just have a templated wiki page for this or something? Or is this what you meant, Lucas?
 
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Lucas: Regarding the URL, speedsolving.com/wiki, why do you like wiki.speedsolving.com better? There is no difference, and as JBC said, the forums are speedsolving/forum. I'd prefer to keep it consistent (I do remember you suggesting forum.speedsolving.com). As far as the URL's with index and main_page, I will work on it. The URL is pretty ugly, and was planning on trying to clean it up.

Lucas said:
Also, can we have a contest for a cool puzzle logo? The Wikipedia logo is already a puzzle, and I'm sure one of us would come up with something really creative for the wiki.
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Sounds like a good idea. Any suggestions of a prize I should give away?

Lucas said:
would you be for creating "Original Research" sections?
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Even with the example, I'm not sure what you mean. I know wiki has the sources at the bottom and use a little tally note to refer to the location of the citation. Is this what you are referring to? Or are you referring to a citation page?

Kenneth said:
I tried to upload an image showing the notation for Pyraminx but it did not work. I got this message when I did it:

"The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver."

Is this function disabled?
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The image folder wasn't writable. Try it now.
 
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Ok, I try it... a little later, was about to write something else right now :)

How about image policy? My idea was to take the simple image at the WCA Pyraminx scrambler and upload it. Strictly legal it is copyrighted to WCA or possibly Jaap who I guess is the one who created it. But I can't imagine someone would dislike if it is used elsewhere. What do you think? Can we use images like that? or should I write to Ron and ask and get his permission when I can't think anything but an OK from him =)
 
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Sounds good.

As far as images go, I don't think it will be to big of a deal. Try to credit people whenever you use an image. I don't think anyone in the WCA would care if we used their images, but if we start taking them from other places, we may want to ask and/or give credit for the image.
 
Nice job on some of the articles guys!

Lucas: You don't like the logo? I think I could come up with something better if I had more than 5 minutes to make one :) But yes why not, we should have a contest, it would be fun to see what others could come up with!

As for prize, I think bragging rights are good enough :)
 
pjk said:
Sounds good.

As far as images go, I don't think it will be to big of a deal. Try to credit people whenever you use an image. I don't think anyone in the WCA would care if we used their images, but if we start taking them from other places, we may want to ask and/or give credit for the image.
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Yes, exactly my thinking, WCA and Speedcubing are parts of our community, "elsewhere" is not.
 
Another thing: how possible is it to make wiki links in the forum? Like if you for example write [[3x3x3]] in the forum the software would automaticly create a link to the 3x page at the wiki (or to an emty page if it does not exist) Would it be too much work or is it easy to do? Mabey other problems with it?

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For all of you who are not used to edit in wikis and open the main page and just find pages...

Go to the recent changes page, that's where the real action occures. the latest pages, who edited it and such is visible there.
 
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Kenneth said:
Another thing: how possible is it to make wiki links in the forum? Like if you for example write [[3x3x3]] in the forum the software would automaticly create a link to the 3x page at the wiki (or to an emty page if it does not exist) Would it be too much work or is it easy to do? Mabey other problems with it?

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For all of you who are not used to edit in wikis and open the main page and just find pages...

Go to the recent changes page, that's where the real action occures. the latest pages, who edited it and such is visible there.
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hey thats a pretty interesting suggestion. It maybe shouldnt bee too hard either. Could it be as easy as finding the PHP script that is executed when Submit Reply is hit, and then just do a string replacement call and inserting the URLcode there?
 
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Kenneth said:
Another thing: how possible is it to make wiki links in the forum? Like if you for example write [[3x3x3]] in the forum the software would automaticly create a link to the 3x page at the wiki (or to an emty page if it does not exist) Would it be too much work or is it easy to do? Mabey other problems with it?

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For all of you who are not used to edit in wikis and open the main page and just find pages...

Go to the recent changes page, that's where the real action occures. the latest pages, who edited it and such is visible there.
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hey thats a pretty interesting suggestion. It maybe shouldnt bee too hard either. Could it be as easy as finding the PHP script that is executed when Submit Reply is hit, and then just do a string replacement call and inserting the URLcode there?
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Yeah, I'd think this would be easy, too. It could be as simple as just appending to the link: <http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/> with whatever is at the end, like "Test_page"... so http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Test_page. I imagine a lot of redirects could be set up, so [[3x3x3]] or [[3x3]] could direct you to [[3x3x3_Speedcubing_methods]].

Edit: this could easily be abused though, as I possibly jsut demonstrated...
 
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Kenneth said:
Another thing: how possible is it to make wiki links in the forum? Like if you for example write [[3x3x3]] in the forum the software would automaticly create a link to the 3x page at the wiki (or to an emty page if it does not exist) Would it be too much work or is it easy to do? Mabey other problems with it?

......
For all of you who are not used to edit in wikis and open the main page and just find pages...

Go to the recent changes page, that's where the real action occures. the latest pages, who edited it and such is visible there.
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I could probably make something like this work. I've also still been working on making applets show up via BBcode. I'll see what I can do.
 
I messed around with some URL rewrite stuff, and I will be able to remove the index.php and make the URL a little cleaner. Give me a couple days and I should have it done.

Edit: Also, do you think we should copy the articles from wikipedia about the cubes and put them up? I think it would be a good idea to include basic pages like that. We will need to link to the wikipedia page at the bottom.
 
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pjk said:
Edit: Also, do you think we should copy the articles from wikipedia about the cubes and put them up? I think it would be a good idea to include basic pages like that. We will need to link to the wikipedia page at the bottom.
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Yes, this would be a good idea. This is what I initially did with the software pages, anyway... those should probably reference wikipedia too.
 
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