5BLD's And PandaCuber's Roux Tutorial

[arcio1]

I think that x2 y' B' L2 U D2 L is better for FB

 

[PandaCuber]

I think the LSE could have probably been better... But I didn't check it.
(yet)

It was a F2B walkthrough. I still havent mastered the LSE

 

[Speedmaster]

I like it !
But could you do a one with a difficult scramble? I want to know what to do if there are no lucky things

 

[PandaCuber]

I like it !
But could you do a one with a difficult scramble? I want to know what to do if there are no lucky things

provide scrambles?

 

[Speedmaster]

I had to do 13 solves to get this wonderful scramble

D' L2 U D' F2 L' R' F D B D' R' U2 F D' B' F L R2 D2 L2 D' L2 F B2

And there are also some questions
How many moves should my SB take? only the SB. And if the Bottom colour of the SB isn't the same as the FB how can I recognise if I should use T or Y perm? and at your website, with CMLL,there are so many algrhitms, which should I learn? and which of them does 5BLD use I also want to know if there's a page with the pictures of the cases, because I need to know how all of them look like, before I can learn how to recognise them.
I've been using Roux for exactly 2 days with practising now, at the begining I was somewhere at 35+ because I wasn't used to blockbuilding..., then I was practising my blocks a lot, I was doing about 150 solves with Roux and now I'M nearly sub 20...Is this good?
Should I learn CMLL now?

 

[pijok]

I had to do 13 solves to get this wonderful scramble

D' L2 U D' F2 L' R' F D B D' R' U2 F D' B' F L R2 D2 L2 D' L2 F B2

That is what i did with this scramble:

FB: z' U2 r2 F' U2 R' U2 x' U2 (7)
SB: F R2 U F U' R' U' R' U L' (10)
CMLL: U L' U2 L U2 L F' L' F (9)
LSE: U M U M U' (5)

31 STM

 

[Speedmaster]

Nice but you're CN I want to know what opposite colour neutral people would do
Would you recommend me doing colourneutral Roux, at the moment it's very difficult for me, but I can average sub 15 with it with CFOP, and I'm averaging about sub 11 with White cross only

 

[5BLD]

That is what i did with this scramble:

FB: z' U2 r2 F' U2 R' U2 x' U2 (7)
SB: F R2 U F U' R' U' R' U L' (10)
CMLL: U L' U2 L U2 L F' L' F (9)
LSE: U M U M U' (5)

31 STM

L moves and F moves in our precious SB? I'd like to see you do this stuff in a speedsolve.

To recog Y perm is easy. If on F B L and R there is an opposite colour pattern for U corners. Otherwise T.

 

[Renslay]

I had to do 13 solves to get this wonderful scramble

D' L2 U D' F2 L' R' F D B D' R' U2 F D' B' F L R2 D2 L2 D' L2 F B2
Should I learn CMLL now?

z' U2 M2 F' x' R' U R' U F' (8)
M U R' U' r U r' (7)
U' F U R U' R' U F' U' R' F' R (12)
M2 U' M U M' U' M U2 M' (9)

36 STM. Am I good? Okay, the second block was a bit lucky...

edited: actually, in a competition, probably I'd do M2 U' M U M' U U2 M U2 M' in a competition.

 

[pijok]

L moves and F moves in our precious SB? I'd like to see you do this stuff in a speedsolve.

How would you do something like:
B' D2 U F' U' F D2 R' B U' (SB Scramble, SB on RD)
without using F?

Nice but you're CN I want to know what opposite colour neutral people would do

I'm not CN, i just use that colour all the time, which blocks do you want?

 

[Renslay]

How would you do something like:
B' D2 U F' U' F D2 R' B U' (SB Scramble)
without using F?

My solutions:
R U r' U' R' U' M2 U R' U' M' U2 r' U' r
or
R2 U r' U' M U' R U R U M U' M' U' R

 

[waffle=ijm]

How would you do something like:
B' D2 U F' U' F D2 R' B U' (SB Scramble, SB on RD)
without using F?

U' R U' Rw' U' R U R U2 Rw' U' R U' R U R' U' R

or

U2 R' U2 R' U2 Rw' U M R' U' M2 U R (NMCMLL)

or R' U Rw' U M' Rw U' R U Rw' U' R2 U M U2 M2 U R'

bunch more but wait if F or L is your block style why bother NOT using them?

 

[pijok]

B' D2 U F' U' F D2 R' B U' (SB Scramble, SB on RD)

I would do: F' U' F R' U R' U' R (8)
or without F: U r U r U r U' r2 U' M' U2 r' U' r (14)

I think F' U' F (3) is faster than U r U r U r U' (7) or something similar (I usually build a 1x2x2 first).

Between: I don't use L during I build the SB

 

[TanookiTrev]

I was just wondering- If after corner and edge orientation you have an easy edge insert to get a U, Z or H perm do you do it or just ignore it and put the UL and UR edges in and complete the solve regularly. At the moment it's quicker for my recognition to just put the edge in and do a PLL but I thought it may be a bad habit to get into ? Thanks in advance

 

[aznanimedude]

I don't see why not, but take my opinion with a grain of salt

 

[Athefre]

z' U2 M2 F' x' R' U R' U F' (8)
M U R' U' r U r' (7)

z' U2M2F'U'M'UR2U'B'R'

 

[PandaCuber]

And there are also some questions
How many moves should my SB take? only the SB.

I personally dont think you should put a number on it. But less than 18 would be a good goal.

and at your website, with CMLL,there are so many algrhitms, which should I learn?

You could learn all of them?
There are only 42. You probably already know about 7 or more.

and which of them does 5BLD use I also want to know if there's a page with the pictures of the cases, because I need to know how all of them look like, before I can learn how to recognise them.

Heres Waffos site. He puts pictures.
If you dont like his algs, heres a database of algs for you to choose!
5BLD uses many algs depending on the situation. I believe he knows around 90? and thats just for CMLL.

I've been using Roux for exactly 2 days with practising now, at the begining I was somewhere at 35+ because I wasn't used to blockbuilding..., then I was practising my blocks a lot, I was doing about 150 solves with Roux and now I'M nearly sub 20...Is this good?

Thats really good for 2 days.

Should I learn CMLL now?

Once you feel like youre comfortably getting sub 23's, its a good idea to start working on CMLL

 

[TanookiTrev]

What sort of move count should I be aiming for to average sub-30? Or should I just work on fluidity for now? (In an ao12 I got 34.xx but I'm still considerably inconsistent).

 

[PandaCuber]

What sort of move count should I be aiming for to average sub-30? Or should I just work on fluidity for now? (In an ao12 I got 34.xx but I'm still considerably inconsistent).

FB: Aim for 10.
SB: Dont go for a number, but for smoothness.
LSE: Smoothness aswell

In total: Smoothness...lol

Dont worry toooo much on numbers right now. Just be as efficient as possible

 

[Speedmaster]

Thank you
And how do I recognise where to do the T perm? I know that if the corners aren't on the right place, but there are two white of them right and two yellow of them on the left, that I have to do the Y perm, and If there is an diagonal swap I have to do the T perm, but I don't know where to do the T perm, sometimes if I do the T perm, all of the corners aren't on the right place...