A New 3x3 Method?

[RubiXer]

I have no idea whether or not this is a new method but while playing around with OH I thought a completely 2gen LL would be awesome. So this method was born.

Step:1 Edge orientation

Step:2 Build a 2x2x2 block

Step:3 Expand it to a 2x2x3 block

Step:4 Permute corners

Step:5 Finish F2L 2 gen

Step:6 COMPLETELY 2 GEN LL!!!! OMG OH HEAVEN!!!

All feedback is welcome

P.S. what should I name this method if it's a new method?

 

[moralsh]

or you could use Petrus

on a more serious tone, I don't understand what steps 1 and 4 are for

 

[5BLD]

It's like Petrus but more inefficient really, keeping EO while trying to blockbuild is difficult.
Also how are you going to permute corners? Am curious.

 

[RubiXer]

It's like Petrus but more inefficient really, keeping EO while trying to blockbuild is difficult.
Also how are you going to permute corners? Am curious.

retaining EO while block building isn't too hard and for permuting corners I have 3 algs for the 6 cases for the corners. I can post the cases and algs for you if you want. Also this method is my OH method so I don't use as many F/B or M slices as I would if I were blockbuilding 2H

or you could use Petrus

on a more serious tone, I don't understand what steps 1 and 4 are for

Step one is to make the solve mostly 3 gen and step 4 is to make the LL 2 gen.

 

[5BLD]

I did not mean to say it was hard to retain. I meant it was hard to be efficient in it. Here's a scramble: D' F2 U' B2 U' R2 D' B2 D2 F2 U F' U R D2 F R' B' L B U

Now give me a speedsolving example. Let's see if your block is efficient.

Basically I do not see any benefit to doing EO early on other than to differentiate it from Petrus.

 

[Petro Leum]

its like a mix of Petrus and zz-d. hard to speedsolve is my guess.

 

[Kirjava]

Petrus + CPLS with EO needlessly restricting blockbuilding.

 

[RubiXer]

I did not mean to say it was hard to retain. I meant it was hard to be efficient in it. Here's a scramble: D' F2 U' B2 U' R2 D' B2 D2 F2 U F' U R D2 F R' B' L B U

Now give me a speedsolving example. Let's see if your block is efficient.

Basically I do not see any benefit to doing EO early on other than to differentiate it from Petrus.

EO F L2 U' D2 L' F'

2x2x2 block L' U2 L U2 D2 F2 D'

2x2x4 block R' U R' U R F2

Corner permutation R' U' R2 U2 L' U R U' L

1x2x3 block U2 R U' R' U R2 U2 R U R' U R2

OLL U R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 R

PLL U2

I'd say my blocks are decent I also decided to do a full example solve instead just incase anyone wants one.

Petrus + CPLS with EO needlessly restricting blockbuilding.

Well for me personally it is a little hard to look ahead into both EO and corner permutation without the restricted block building...

 

[Godmil]

This is like the fourth new method in a week. Interesting.

 

[RubiXer]

This is like the fourth new method in a week. Interesting.

Yeah I noticed that so I thought why not What do you think of the method?

 

[porkynator]

The only thing that makes this method different from ZZ-d is blockbuilding without the line... it's not a bad idea in my opinion, but it isn't new either.
Maybe this EO -> blockbuilding can be useful in FMC, but usually it's better to do blockbuilding -> EO or even better to do them together.

 

[brunovervoort]

I don't think a 2-gen LL is very efficient. It also requires a lot of regrips.

 

[Stefan]

6 cases for the corners

How and how fast do you recognize the case?

Corner permutation R' U' R2 U2 L' U R U' L

L' U R U' L is faster.

 

[mDiPalma]

@ 5bld's D' F2 U' B2 U' R2 D' B2 D2 F2 U F' U R D2 F R' B' L B U

x' D' L2 F R' U' x' (eo 5)
D' R2 (D' U) R D2 R U R' F2 (2x2x3+advanced zzd cp 9)
z U R2 U2 R2 U2 R U' R U' R2 U R' U R' U' R (damn 16)

=30 atm 31 htm

it's a good method.

EDIT: if anyone else can find a better continuation after the 2x2x3, pls pm me the details.

 

[RubiXer]

@brunovervoort How so? You don't have to re-grip as much and this is my OH method anyway and if you know anything about OH you only have access to the R and U faces.

@Stefan I can probably recognize the cases around .8-1.1 seconds and I set up the CP to make the second block faster.

@mDiPalma Thanks! Can you explain the "2x2x3+advanced zzd cp" subset?

 

[nqwe]

@ 5bld's D' F2 U' B2 U' R2 D' B2 D2 F2 U F' U R D2 F R' B' L B U

x' D' L2 F R' U' x' (eo 5)
D' R2 (D' U) R D2 R U R' F2 (2x2x3+advanced zzd cp 9)
z U R2 U2 R2 U2 R U' R U' R2 U R' U R' U' R (damn 16)

=30 atm 31 htm

it's a good method.

Maybe for FMC, but you wouldn't get better times than with CFOP, Roux, ZZ or whatever.
I sometimes even hate the discussion about new speedcubing methods; if things like CPLS would make you faster, why are no WR set with it?! Besides addons like COLL, MGLS, etc. I don't really know world's top speedcubers, that use complicated things like CPLS, EO-Blockbuilding, etc..

 

[Noahaha]

What we NEED is Petrus with EOCP. Thank you.

 

[RubiXer]

Maybe for FMC, but you wouldn't get better times than with CFOP, Roux, ZZ or whatever.
I sometimes even hate the discussion about new speedcubing methods; if things like CPLS would make you faster, why are no WR set with it?! Besides addons like COLL, MGLS, etc. I don't really know world's top speedcubers, that use complicated things like CPLS, EO-Blockbuilding, etc..

1.I never said you'd get better times I just decided to put my idea out there.
2.The world renounced cubers are all comfortable with there main methods so I doubt they would try to incorporate things like CPLS into their solves.
3.Feliks uses COLL
4. That was really stupid for you to say EO and Blockbuilding are complicated when you listed 2 methods that infact use both EO and Blockbuilding(Roux and ZZ)
and 5.Some of the world's top speedcubers use Roux which uses both EO and Blockbuilding.

Next time think before you post such a contradicting comment

@Noahaha Not quite sure if I understand but your welcome?

 

[mDiPalma]

Noah is crazy. ignore him.

 

[RubiXer]

Oh ok... By the way can you explain"2x2x3+advanced zzd cp" to me please?