5BLD's And PandaCuber's Roux Tutorial

[5BLD]

rUr' r'U'r
Obtw, don't do it F2L style

 

[ThtDarnNeighbor]

to the alg i say derp

and how, all the tutorials ive seen just say "intuition! diy!" i figured out all the f2l cases intuitively and i cant figure out how to do this -_-

 

[AbstractAlg]

(RUR'U')x3 ?
It's f2l-ish but there probably isn't any faster and nicer solution.

I solve SB always middle edge + 2 f2l pair but pairing pairs is done mostly with M slice, I do not do that only when there is some easy to see center+edge pair and corner+middle edge pair that could be easily matched. If you try to improve your way of thinking for SB don't time it, just take a nice long look at the pieces and try to find some nice ways to match them all.

EDIT:

10.14 and one very nice time, just look at my signature - 8.23!! (FB was solved)

 

[ThtDarnNeighbor]

say this happens, the lsat 2 pieces of ur sb

http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/images/1/17/F2L23.png
m slice is open

what do you do

 

[waffle=ijm]

r U2 r' U' M' r U r'

or

R M U' M2 R B' R' B R'

or

R M U' M2 U' R' U' r U r'

or

F' U' F U' R U' R' U R U' R'

or

M2 R U' r U2 r U R'

there's a crap load more but lazy and sht.

 

[Kirjava]

I like U R U' R' U' R U' R' U R U' R'

 

[PandaCuber]

My LSE is getting worse. How can I improve?

4.78 (σ = 0.52)
4.63, 4.86, 7.82, 4.27, 4.29, 4.58, 4.13, 5.33, 5.08, 5.15, 3.80, 4.02, 5.05, 4.99, 4.17, 4.64, 3.37, 6.14, 5.01, 5.22, 5.31, 6.38, 4.85, 4.15, 4.45

 

[waffle=ijm]

You can use this "slowed down" period to practice transitions.

 

[Renslay]

r U2 r' U' M' r U r'

or

(...)

or

M2 R U' r U2 r U R'

there's a crap load more but lazy and sht.

My first idea was
r M' U' r' U2 r U R'
but then I realize it is the same as your last one...

 

[PandaCuber]

Anybody like any Roux videos/torials/anything? Ive got time to make them

 

[Ickathu]

LSE and second block tutorials/tips and tricks

Oh, and walkthrough solves in general are helpful

 

[Renslay]

Very slow motion videos about fingertricks, especially for LSE (M turns, the E2 M E2 M' patterns, etc.)

 

[5BLD]

Ill do a lse avg12 or something in slowmo. Interested to watch it myself.

I am pretty bad at walkthrougs but ill try

 

[AbstractAlg]

After finding x U2 r' U' r U2 l' U R' U' R2 alg I switched back to cfop. My roux look-ahead exist does not, while I sub15 cfop. Rouxprogress was too slow, and the thought of discarding all the olls and plls just wasn't attractive to me.

 

[5BLD]

After finding x U2 r' U' r U2 l' U R' U' R2 alg I switched back to cfop. My roux look-ahead exist does not, while I sub15 cfop. Rouxprogress was too slow, and the thought of discarding all the olls and plls just wasn't attractive to me.

Did you hate the J perm that much...?
I thought that that roux progress was pretty quick.
As for 'discarding olls and plls', I still use PLLs today because, well, I know (most of) them. As for OLL, well I intend to learn OLLCP anyway.

Either way, it's not 'discarding'. How long does it take to learn OLL and PLL? Two weeks? It's never a waste of time as you'll use them later on.
Not trying to convert you back, I see from my experience it's hard to change... I would relate this to atheism but this post is already too long...

 

[arcio1]

After finding x U2 r' U' r U2 l' U R' U' R2 alg I switched back to cfop. My roux look-ahead exist does not, while I sub15 cfop. Rouxprogress was too slow, and the thought of discarding all the olls and plls just wasn't attractive to me.

You can still use them one-handed or with feet

I still use PLLs today because, well, I know (most of) them

I though that you use Roux from the beginning, you switched to it from CFOP, too?

 

[Cool Frog]

I forgot my G perms... Only because I know OLLCP...

Tis still useful though, I got an F perm at ~5 seconds into a solve (DNF because I hate F perms)

 

[PandaCuber]

I though that you use Roux from the beginning, you switched to it from CFOP, too?

I dont think so, he just likes to learn algs.

 

[Petro Leum]

Did you hate the J perm that much...?
I thought that that roux progress was pretty quick.
As for 'discarding olls and plls', I still use PLLs today because, well, I know (most of) them. As for OLL, well I intend to learn OLLCP anyway.

Either way, it's not 'discarding'. How long does it take to learn OLL and PLL? Two weeks? It's never a waste of time as you'll use them later on.
Not trying to convert you back, I see from my experience it's hard to change... I would relate this to atheism but this post is already too long...

roux progress is slow if you have to figure out fast and efficient blockbuilding for the first time. its a pain, but its worth it not only for roux.

 

[5BLD]

I dont think so, he just likes to learn algs.

I did in fact switch from CFOP but I didnt care about my times until people began pointing out my progress was quite fast (lol). I think in this 'not caring' time I accidentally discovered the benefits of practising slowly and the benefits of lookahead, though not to mention the fact I used to use a rubik's brand for roux until like 15s.

roux progress is slow if you have to figure out fast and efficient blockbuilding for the first time. its a pain, but its worth it not only for roux.

Yes, progress is slow at first if you look at speed. But efficiency is what is developing in that 'static' time.

I do stroke my imaginary beard when someone tells me "I've switched to Roux, it's really easy, I think I can speedcube with it easily now. Second block is easy"
I proceed to say, well thats strange, I find second block the hardest- how many moves do you average for it?
"uh, 20"
So yeah. being efficient is very hard at first but if you find it hard and work at it, eventually you wqill have a strong foundation for speed.