Zhanchi with torpedoes VS Zhanchi without torpedoes

[cubernya]

I find it annoying to have to unscrew one side to relube my cube/remove a piece. And with the trops in it it seems that after a couple of solves the cube feels slow and then my times go to **** so I have to relube quite alot.

Then you lubed it too much.

BTW, you turn a side to a 45 as normal, then TWIST the edge in place until it pops out, not just pulling on it.

 

[insane569]

Then you lubed it too much.

BTW, you turn a side to a 45 as normal, then TWIST the edge in place until it pops out, not just pulling on it.

Assume much? I have tight tensions. If the torps weren't in it would still pop since I have some sloppy turning.

 

[pdilla]

Please show me that torpedoes reduce corner cutting. I've tried it with both, and see no difference.

This is my own conclusion, not to be confused with an objective ontological fact of the matter. There are also other factors to considers as well, such as the varying manufacturing quality of the individual cubes.

The ZhanChi without torpedoes also feels more fragile (IMO)

I agree, I think it has something to do with it being lighter sans torpedoes.

Please show me proof that it turns faster with the exact same amount of force. I know that FAZ can turn a Rubik's brand fast enough to be sub 9 (he has a video on youtube of it ), so I doubt that it really makes a difference

By "turns faster" I don't mean "has a higher maximum velocity that is easier to reach," rather, I mean "turns at a higher acceleration." Since the mass of the layer itself has decreased, its acceleration is directly proportional to it's loss of mass. This doesn't need to be seen as anything dramatically quicker by any means, thus I haven't claimed it to be.

Also, you clearly don't know how to disassemble a cube with torpedoes in it.

I never claimed that is is somehow impossible or incredibly hard to disassemble the cube with torpedoes. All I claimed is that it is harder, period. This also doesn't need to be seen as anything dramatically more difficult, only more difficult than it is sans torpedoes. As long as that is true, then my claim stands.

And yes, I do know how to disassemble a cube with torpedoes. Twist and pull the edge.

 

[ZeeK]

the torpedos im my case doesn't increase the lock ups but make a certain feel of clickiness but they also doesn't decrease much of the pops because the cube rarely pops so actually doesn't matter much although i prefer maintaining them.

 

[JohnLaurain]

I prefer torpedos more because I like the slight clickiness and weight it adds to the cube. I don't really do anything to make the cube pop under normal conditions, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[skeletonboy]

Oh yes, I know this is almost completely useless, but I just wanted to say, Feliks Zemdegs keeps his torpedos in.

 

[pdilla]

Oh yes, I know this is almost completely useless, but I just wanted to say, Feliks Zemdegs keeps his torpedos in.

Which just goes to show, its the cuber not the cube.

 

[cubingawsumness]

Which just goes to show, its the cuber not the cube.

agreed
its all personal preference

 

[andyfreeman]

both... in my stickered no torps, tight tensions, it turns like a dream and only pops when I'm playing with it, not cubing.

In my stickerless, after lubing it exactly the same and everything, I find I have to back off the tensions to make it the same as the stickered, resulting in a poppier cube. Hence in that one I have the torps.

Still have to find out why the differnence, there are so many factors....

 

[Zarxrax]

I've kept my torpedoes in my zanchi since I first bought it, because I heard that it pops a lot without them. And all this time, I have felt that my guhong was a much better cube than the zanchi. Well today I decided to take those torpedoes out, and I must say, my zanchi feels much better now! Hasn't popped on me yet, so I'm going to be keeping it like this from now on.

 

[NOLAcuber]

I keep mine in. I took my torps out and 3 solves in a row it exploded on me, so they got put back in.

 

[Vinny]

I use torpedoes, but I might consider trying the cube without them seeing how a fair amount of people seem to like the cube without the in.

The one problem is do find with torpedoes is the explosions. Although the cube may pop without the torpedoes in, when they ARE in, the cube will explode. My reasoning is that, because the torpedoes grab onto the corners, if they ever DO come out, the corners come out with the edge. Whenever my ZhanChi does pop, it is a 3-4 piece pop, minimum...

Them again, I have my cube very loose...

 

[Sillas]

With torpedoes is more secure and without is more fast... you may choose.

 

[DeathCuberK]

Just took out my torpedoes based on the fact that some people find this cube better without them. I must say, it is so much faster and smoother. Haven't gotten a pop yet, although I would imagine that I ill get one eventually.

 

[amostay2004]

Took out the torpedoes once and it felt really nice and different and all, then I realise I wasn't really getting any good times and the popping increased, so I decided with torpedoes is better.

 

[TheAllCreator]

yeah, I liked my torpedos. I took them out, but there was no obvious difference for me. And like Vinny, mine pops 3 at a time. So if you pop, it's pretty crap. I get super SUPER frustrated when i pop, on good runs, and on bad ones...

 

[applemobile]

Based on this thread i removed my torpedoes, and absolutely hated it. Its just awful. Maybe because i am so used to with them in and running it very loose. They are back in now anyway. I still get the odd pop with them in, strangely its always during Sune.

 

[ernie722]

i took my torpedoes out a few times and it gacve it this AWESOME feel but then its started popping way to much so i had to put it back in

 

[Iggy]

I like loose tensions so I left them in. If you decide to leave them in, I recommend that you set reasonably loose tensions (not too loose, or it'll pop like crazy even with torpedoes) to make it easier when you want to take out an edge. It's definitely smoother without the torpedoes, but if you really can't stand pops, you'd better leave them in.

 

[chimchu]

I've taken them out, and it did'nt really make it pop anymore than it did before.