Zhanchi with torpedoes VS Zhanchi without torpedoes

[samchoochiu]

which do you like better?

I hope the voters have tried both.

 

[skeletonboy]

You have to have a very fast lube like Lubix or Traxaas then with a right tension and ..... it's just a bit hard to maintain.

 

[CoryThigpen]

I removed the torpedoes when I first got the ZhanChi, but my tensions must have been too loose so it started popping like crazy. I tried it again a couple of weeks ago and noticed a huge difference. I find it WAY better. There is the occasional pop, but it's not bad enough that I will go back to the torpedoes.

 

[PandaCuber]

I perfer no torpedoes. Hasnt popped on me. Yet..

 

[waffle=ijm]

doesn't matter had sex.

Tried both, differences are hardly noticeable. I prefer torpedoes to add a little clicky to the cube.

 

[AndersB]

I tried torpedoes for a while, but when I took them out I thought the cube became better. Yesterday I tightened it a bit, and I just broke PB avg5 and avg12 with it. So, no torpedoes for me.

 

[Muesli]

I don't bother with the torpedoes. I find that if I do something that would pop the cube without torpedoes it's going to lock it up horribly with them in. Plus disassembly is much harder with them in.

I can stand a pop every 100 odd solves. What I can't stand is locking every single solve. Just tension your cube right and break it in, it shouldn't pop.

 

[ThomasJE]

I reckon if it didn't have torpedos, it wouldn't pop every now and then; it would explode every day. My advice would be to leave the torpedos in, and sand off the bumps on the corners where the torpedos slide, to make it a bit quieter and smoother.

 

[Godmil]

I didn't like the feel so I just took them out... it barely ever pops anyway.

 

[Goosly]

My ZhanChi is extremely loose, so I do use the torpedos.

 

[samchoochiu]

doesn't matter had sex.

Tried both, differences are hardly noticeable. I prefer torpedoes to add a little clicky to the cube.

really? The reason I made this thread is because I have 2 zanchis (both unmodded with torpedoes and washers). 1 is very good and the other is not as good. I took the torpedoes and the washers of out the not so good one (helpcube mod) and the cube is feeling great. Idk, it was just kinda bittersweet because now I'm obligated to remove the torpedoes out of all of my cubes in the future and I always loved my zanchi for being so smooth and fast with torpedoes and I did not think the torpedoes slows the cube down at all.

 

[emolover]

Personally I hate the Zhanchi either way. But I love my Linyun with torpedoes.

 

[Yuxuibbs]

I accidentally shaved off some plastic on my zhanchi while I was getting the torpedoes out then it starte poppin like crazy. I put the torpedoes back on.

 

[DavidWoner]

No torpedoes is sooooo much better.

 

[5BLD]

Learn to spell ZhanChi.

I prefer with anchors simply because without, edges tend to twist out due to the far more curvy design of the cube. The thing about my zhanchi (my old one not my zhanchi silk- I won't touch its insides unless necessary) has an awfully squidgy feel without anchors which I hate. With anchors the cube seems less squidgy and more smooth and controllable.

The upshot to not having anchors is that it doesn't have centre catches and the cube is a fair bit faster.

 

[TheMachanga]

No torpedoes is sooooo much better.

This. I was using torpedos with a moderately loose tension, and every 2 days, I would have to relube because it would slow down. Then I took them off, and with the same tension, and it's amazing, and has only popped twice in a month. Plus, I don't have to keep cleaning out and relubing, and it's much smoother.

 

[aaronb]

This. I was using torpedos with a moderately loose tension, and every 2 days, I would have to relube because it would slow down. Then I took them off, and with the same tension, and it's amazing, and has only popped twice in a month. Plus, I don't have to keep cleaning out and relubing, and it's much smoother.

Taking out the torpedoes helps make the lube last longer? I guess I will take my torpedoes out then. The cube always seems to get slow a few days after lubing.

 

[pdilla]

After fooling around with the torpedos, I've come to this conclusion

With torpedoes
Pros: Much less popping at looser tensions, slight clicky feel (if you can dig it), heavier feel
Cons: More lock ups, less corner cutting, can catch on corner imperfections (without mod), harder disassembly on tighter tensions

Without torpedoes:
Pros: Slightly faster turning, Less lockups, more corner cutting, simple disassembly, smoother feel (if you like)
Cons: More pops at looser tensions, lighter feel (if you don't like)

All in all, torpedoes don't seem to give as much pros as they do cons, but if you happen to be a sloppy turner or enjoy loose tensions, then you may want to keep the torpedoes in. If not, out they go.

 

[cubernya]

After fooling around with the torpedos, I've come to this conclusion

With torpedoes
Pros: Much less popping at looser tensions, slight clicky feel (if you can dig it), heavier feel
Cons: More lock ups, less corner cutting, can catch on corner imperfections (without mod), harder disassembly on tighter tensions

Without torpedoes:
Pros: Slightly faster turning, Less lockups, more corner cutting, simple disassembly, smoother feel (if you like)
Cons: More pops at looser tensions, lighter feel (if you don't like)

All in all, torpedoes don't seem to give as much pros as they do cons, but if you happen to be a sloppy turner or enjoy loose tensions, then you may want to keep the torpedoes in. If not, out they go.

Please show me that torpedoes reduce corner cutting. I've tried it with both, and see no difference. The ZhanChi without torpedoes also feels more fragile (IMO)
Please show me proof that it turns faster with the exact same amount of force. I know that FAZ can turn a Rubik's brand fast enough to be sub 9 (he has a video on youtube of it ), so I doubt that it really makes a difference

Also, you clearly don't know how to disassemble a cube with torpedoes in it.

 

[insane569]

Also, you clearly don't know how to disassemble a cube with torpedoes in it.

I find it annoying to have to unscrew one side to relube my cube/remove a piece. And with the trops in it it seems that after a couple of solves the cube feels slow and then my times go to **** so I have to relube quite alot.