Where do I go from here?

[gundamslicer]

I just feel like the faster cube would hinder your look ahead. When I was working my way to where I am now, I had no look ahead at all until I was sub 30. Once I hit sub 30, I couldn't get any faster, and had no idea why, until I learned about look ahead. If I hadn't learned about it, I would have just kept turning fast and staying stuck in the same time area. Even if you do get fast on a good cube, what happens when someone asks you to use a normal cube? Your times would just suck. At least, starting out with a normal cube and getting fast, you'd have an easier time getting fast times with any cube.

the only problem when starting with a new cube is getting used to the speed. so ur saying that with a faster cube, you would do bad because u would be bad at look ahead? not the case because you arent used to the cube and it may lockup more than what ur regular cubes does. Your recognization would be the same or maybe faster since ur using a slower cube but the lockups and getting used to would "increase" ur times

 

[aaronb]

Please, don't turn this into another "Starting with fast cube vs working your way up to a fast cube" thread.

To the original poster, I would suggest learner a new method and try to minimize pauses. If you know the Dan Brown, method, then you may want to take a look at a few of these other layer-by-layer videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=609nhVzg-5Q (BadMephisto)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yU-EwlRRvc&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=PL6CD08F940E40DCDB (RobH's, the one I learned from)

These Layer-by-Layer videos will show you a more intuitive approach; I know Dan Brown shows you repetitive algorithms, to solve specific pieces. These videos that show a more intutive way, will help you move onto another method.

You were right, the Fridich method, combines solving edges and corners. I would say most people use this method, but only because it was one of the first to become popular. You could try other methods like Roux or Petrus.

http://lar5.com/cube/ (Inventor of the Petrus method's website)
http://wafflelikescubes.webs.com/rouxmethod.htm (A great Roux tutorial.)

I would also suggest trying to minimize pauses in between moves (this is called look-ahead); Instead of doing short bursts of moves, and then pausing, while looking for the next pieces, I would try to make it into one fluid solve. This will help decrease your times by a lot. Also, I would learn PLL (If you go with the Fridrich method) when you are about 30-40 seconds, or when you feel ready. I would learn OLL at about 15-25, or when you feel ready.

Good luck with cubing,
Aaron

 

[Kirjava]

I now declare this the new "Starting with fast cube vs working your way up to a fast cube" thread

 

[yockee]

Yeah, but the point would be to try and avoid locking up, by turning accurately.

 

[Juju]

Also, if you're using green cross, I would switch right away to white cross, or work on being colour neutral. The vast majority of cubing resources (videos, webpages etc) are geared towards white cross on bottom. Green cross is just awkward, considering.

 

[aaronb]

Also, if you're using green cross, I would switch right away to white cross, or work on being colour neutral. The vast majority of cubing resources (videos, webpages etc) are geared towards white cross on bottom. Green cross is just awkward, considering.

If he was to switch cross colors, why would he switch from only green, to only white? It would make sense to either stick with green, go to green/blue neutral, or completely color neutral. Just because most PLL diagrams show yellow on top, doesn't mean he has to switch to a white cross; he could just think that the yellow stickers were blue; and besides PLL diagrams, I can't think of one resource designed for white cross users, that would be difficult for green cross users to adapt to. And he would be completely un-used to a white cross, and would still only have one option for a cross on each solve.

 

[Sillas]

Learn F2L on Badmephisto's Channel.

 

[onlyleftname]

First read this: http://badmephisto.com/begsoln/

Then this: http://www.badmephisto.com/f2l.php

Then this: http://www.badmephisto.com/pll.php

Then this: http://www.badmephisto.com/oll.php

Memorize the PLL's first.

Also, after/during you memorize these look up COLL or multislotting techniques that can speed up your times.

Oh and for F2L Algorithms: http://www.youtube.com/user/theWestonian#p/u/30/ltRk3QjGtmg

Also, just get a different cube. A ZhanChi is very fast and hard to control as a beginner.

 

[Kirjava]

Yeah, but the point would be to try and avoid locking up, by turning accurately.

There's nothing about a good cube that stops you from turning accurately.

 

[Coke]

I learned how to solve a cube from the dan brown youtube videos, which im pretty sure is the fridrich method.

I'm sorry, but reading that just makes us cubers wanna cry. (at least it does for me)

ANYWAY, I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but this is a good guide to follow for learning/improving upon your times using the TRUE fridrich (call it CFOP, preferably) method. Think of it as a timeline of improvement. http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?6085-How-to-Get-Faster-using-the-Fridrich-Method

 

[Juju]

If he was to switch cross colors, why would he switch from only green, to only white? It would make sense to either stick with green, go to green/blue neutral, or completely color neutral. Just because most PLL diagrams show yellow on top, doesn't mean he has to switch to a white cross; he could just think that the yellow stickers were blue; and besides PLL diagrams, I can't think of one resource designed for white cross users, that would be difficult for green cross users to adapt to. And he would be completely un-used to a white cross, and would still only have one option for a cross on each solve.

Actually, a huge amount of the best/most accessable cubing resources are geared towards cross on white, not just PLL diagrams (Badmephisto's videos, Weston's videos, Speedsolving wiki, among many others that I've seen)

It makes perfect sense for someone new to either switch cross colour to white (or white/yellow), or go fully colour neutral, as I stated before.

Since most people aren't colour neutral, it's handy that most people use white as their cross colour. It allows for much easier sharing of information. Sticking with just green would likely be awkward in the long run (in my opinion, of course)

 

[clifford2704]

i suggest learn full PLL and 2 look OLL, Im around a sub 40 sec average now, I learnt dan browns method (1min), then moved to f2l, 2 look OLL/PLL (50 secs), to full PLL, 2 look OLL, f2l, cross on bottom (sub 40 secs ish), its been a month since I started cubing again, before I stopped I was in the 1 min 30s.

 

[TheZenith27]

Don't use Dan Brown! I recommend learning cross on white because it is easier to see white pieces quickly. Learn Fridrich method from Badmephisto and intuitive F2L from Badmephisto. In fact, you should probably just learn everything from Badmephisto.