The Future of Competitive Speedsolving (a discussion)

Yes. Do you realize the vast similarities. EOline is just a small example of new solving.
 
Jorghi said:
Ok.. But why are you guys acting like roux is the legendary solution.. Its just a different form of cfop.. Build, preserve, build.. Then fixing orientation and permutation.

The only decent step is the first, second block..
That is where all the efficiency is from.


We need a fully new way of thinking not ollcp or zbll, or 2gll.
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They're not acting like it's the legendary solution, they're just making a point.
 
cubeslayer said:
I look forward to the day when the speed cubing limits for the 3x3 are reached ( and I believe that day has come. Faz truly outdid himself with the official 5s solve).
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You can't seriously think Feliks' 5.66 is the limit for 3x3. Plenty of people have had solves below that, and in the future Feliks and others will most definitely pass it officially.
 
waffle=ijm said:
I believe that there will be a spike in interest but a decline in "lifespan" for cubers. What I'm trying to say is, with all the resources (websites, videos, tutorials, hardware) out there at this time, almost anybody can be fast. This I feel is really appealing to people and spark an interest. In fact maybe they will even get sub-20 and faster. It's a great way to impress people. But despite this, a lot of people just don't put the time and effort to becoming faster or use fewer moves or just plain attending a competition. since they expect things and not having certain results.

We have nubs coming into the community (not a bad thing to be a nub, we all were at point even faznub). They show a flare for cubing but they expect instant gratification. And when they don't get it, they just give up at times. Most nubs do.
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Thank you for pointing out that we were all nubs once and people should stop flaming nubs that have just joined the forum. Its not exactly a warm welcome.

On topic: I think speedcubing may not reach a peak for a long, long time. The amount of information, software, and connection to other cubers is to vast for it to just suddenly decline. Its only been going 8 years.
 
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Yeah, I think the smaller puzzles might meet "limits" in times (i.e. 2x2 and Magic seem to be there/close already), but the bigger puzzles/BLD will still be going on for a while, since I think it's safe to say we haven't met the human limit for things like big cubes, for example.
 
cmhardw said:
Please bring the discussion back on topic or this thread will be closed.
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I'll do my best.

While 5.66 isn't necessarily the "limit", there are physical and mental limits, which are as of yet undetermined. Someone's already designed a robot capable of solving a Rubik's Cube in 12 seconds from any position, which could theoretically go faster if using the most optimal solution, but is currently limited by the hardware (processor speed, the fact that it's mechanically made out of Lego, which would mean it could fly apart if it went too fast).

As a minor aside, I am curious as to what would happen if individuals with specific mental traits (eg: Aspergers Syndrome, Autistic Savant Syndrome), physical mutations (eg: fully functional polydactyly), or enhancement (off-label use of ADHD medication like Adderal or Ritalin) were able to benefit from those things as far as speedsolving is concerned. We hear about individuals who have severe psychological deficits that prevent them from leading normal lives (eg: don't learn to talk until they turn 8 years old), yet have bizarre abilities like being able to memorize a phone book and create an accurate map of a city from a single helicopter fly-over.

If records were made by such individuals, would they start doing the Barry Bonds thing where they put an asterisk next the person's name? Or would they start testing people for ritalin, making peeing in a cup mandatory at all WCA competitions?

Another minor aside...I contacted number cruncher Daniel Tammet (look up The Boy with the Amazing Brain on YouTube) and asked him if he would be able to use his mathematical abilities to determine optimal solutions for the 3x3x3 (or any other puzzle), and sadly he's never actually had an interest in them, so he couldn't tell me.
 
I have asperger's, and have an extreme memory. It's all execution mistakes in BLD. I never said a word until 4 when I had to have speech haha

I doubt they would put a * next to their name, there's just no point.

Also, I'm surprised Daniel never had an interest in the cube, it seems as though he would have at some point.
 
Actually it is true. If you are color neutral, thr odds of finding a CE pair during inspection is what Jorghi said, around 60%
 
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