having problems with M2/R2 method

[chardison1980]

hey guys,
im having problems getting the hang of m2/r2 algs, ive checked a couple sites and have found that a few of the algs for the sites dont match up with each other please help and clarify this for me. links and algs on that site.

http://erikku.er.funpic.org/rubik/M2.html
LB U'LU M2 U'L'U BL x' L'U'LU M2 U'L'UL x
RB UR'U' M2 URU' BR x' RU'R'U M2 U'RUR'

http://cubbix2011.comlu.com/index.p...=article&id=70:m2-r2&catid=14:3x3x3&Itemid=22

RB: l U' R' U M2 U' R U l' BR: U R' U' M2 U R U'
LB: r' U L U' M2 U L' U' r BL: U' L U M2 U' L' U

and is there any good video tutorials on m2/r2 that goes a little slower than bldmasters video, cause his is way to fast for me right now.
i do have Old poch method down

thanks

 

[Tao Yu]

The reason they don't match is that the buffers are different.

Erik shoots from a FD buffer (to BU)and the other site shoots from a DF buffer.(to UB)

This means that Erik is moving pieces to BU while the other site is moving pieces to UB

some of the algorithms are acutally the same but with rotations.

 

[JyH]

The reason they don't match is that the buffers are different.

Erik shoots from a FD buffer (to BU)and the other site shoots from a DF buffer.(to UB)

This means that Erik is moving pieces to BU while the other site is moving pieces to UB

some of the algorithms are acutally the same but with rotations.

Isn't it DF, not FD?

 

[chardison1980]

i am lost what that these mean in the algs.
RB: l U' R' U M2 U' R U l'
LB: r' U L U' M2 U L' U' r

 

[Godmil]

small letters mean you turn the middle layer along with the side that the letter says...
here, check this out: http://alg.garron.us/?alg=r
or this for the whole alg: http://alg.garron.us/?alg=l_U-_R-_U_M2_U-_R_U_l-

 

[JyH]

Double layer turn.
I don't think you should be learning BLD if you're so inexperienced that you don't know full notation.

 

[Godmil]

I don't think you should be learning BLD if you're so inexperienced that you don't know full notation.

Maybe a little harsh. It's possible to overlook things like wide turns for a while... and he said he can already do Old Pochmann.

Also Eric Limeback has a nice M2 tutorial here

 

[RyanReese09]

Isn't it DF, not FD?

Tao Yu explained it perfectly. Some choose DF buffer, some do FD (the sticker matters...).

 

[chardison1980]

yes i have OP down and can do 100% solves using it, i have also incorperated some of my own algs to make it easier on me, like partial m2 moves to help so i dont have to make crazy setup moves, and forget to undo them things like that.
but when i look at 3x3x3 tutorials i havent really seen a double layer turn very often,
now when im doing my 4, 5, 6, or even 7x7x7s i see it all the time.
but now that you told me that i'll remember it.