Which is the best 4x4x4 cube?

[ralphie6]

I want to buy a 4x4x4 cube and Iwant to know which is the best and where can I buy it?

 

[EMI]

Depends on what you prefer. Decide between the Shengshou 4x4x4 http://www.witeden.com/goods.php?id=326
the Maru 4x4x4 http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.4x4x4_Magic_Cube_Black-29885
the X-cube 4x4x4 http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.4x4x4_X_Cube_4_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit_White-35955
the mf8/Dayan(my favorite) http://www.witeden.com/goods.php?id=173

 

[MoRpHiiNe]

Like EMI said above, they're probably the best, I've brought a Dayan myself, they seem the best in my opinion.

 

[Lars]

I've brought a Dayan, it sux, i recommend buying a X-Cube, but its expensive

 

[aminayuko]

get a dayan + mf8 4x4. Then if you don't have any, get some maru lube and/or lubix. then completely disassemble it and lube the inner 2x2 core with maru lube, if not lubix.Right now is a good time to tension the core so do that right now. then screw in the shells on the 2x2 core all the way to reduce pops. then fully assemble it until you get the last 2 edges. put some lubix, if not maru lube in the gap. then close it up and the magic will happen.

 

[BC1997]

I'd go with a QJ if you're just starting off, but buying a QJ to just stop using it after you've become alot faster doesn't seem like a good idea. Go with either a WHITE mefferts or an X-cube.

 

[BeltedYapper]

I prefer the Rubik's 4X4. Mainly because it is fast around that core, and it is the ony high ordered cube I can get my hands on.

 

[bwronski]

I prefer the Rubik's 4X4. Mainly because it is fast around that core, and it is the ony high ordered cube I can get my hands on.

according to your signature....your statements cant be trusted

 

[aminayuko]

belted yapper is lying! the rubik's 4x4 horrible to the power of infinti! it pops, locks, can't cut corners, and the center pieces break all the time! you are better off with any 4x4! even eastsheen is better! don't get the rubik's 4x4! even as the last resort! you are better off with a shengshou from lightake!


Edit: i just noticed ralphie6 has his first post! congrats!

 

[masteranders1]

X-Cube 4. It's expensive, but it's worth the price. I've had a Maru, Dayan, QJ, Mini QJ and Rubik's before and it is by far the best. If you're just starting out and around 1:45 or higher, then you should get either a QJ or Mini QJ (I prefer the mini QJ, it was my main for quite a long time). Dayans pop too much in my opinion, and just aren't that good. Rubik's brands stink. They're absolutely horrible. Basically, either QJ or X-Cube 4.

 

[AvGalen]

the Rubik's 4x4x4? NO. Not old version and not new version. Not anymore

 

[aminayuko]

i'd like to see all those 4x4s cut a full piece in the centers except the dayan 4x4. if you want the dayan 4x4 to stop popping, screw the shells of the 2x2 all the way.

 

[waffle=ijm]

Why do people always think the best cube is the best corner cutting? Are you all idiots? You can sacrifice corner cutting. You don't have to able to cut 45 degrees on any cube to be fast. Cubers at full speeds seldom stop halfway through a turn just for the sake of cutting a 45 when they don't really need to.

 

[aminayuko]

waffle=ijm, do an average of 12 for doing only centers on the qj,lanlan, or rubik's 4x4s. now do the same with a dayan+mf8, shengshou, ghosthand II, or x-cube 4x4s.

 

[Vinny]

waffle=ijm, do an average of 12 for doing only centers on the qj,lanlan, or rubik's 4x4s. now do the same with a dayan+mf8, shengshou, ghosthand II, or x-cube 4x4s.

He's not saying he needs NO corner cutting. He's saying that after a certain point, you don't really need THAT much corner cutting.

 

[waffle=ijm]

sure.
you obviously don't know who I am so I will humor you. In fact I'll even throw in an Eastsheen in there for shits and giggles

eastsheen - 13.34, 11.75, 11.47, 13.80, 12.98, 13.01, 15.70, 12.83, 13.31, 15.58, 12.23, 16.06 = 13.45 (σ = 1.29)

miniQJ - 13.73, 10.38, 12.50, 13.67, 13.58, 10.11, 11.73, 13.50, 10.55, 12.05, 11.84, 12.64 = 12.24 (σ = 1.18)

Xcube - 13.82, 12.74, 12.82, 12.43, 14.63, 13.46, 15.51, 12.98, 13.82, 13.09, 12.79, 11.54 = 13.26 (σ = 0.67)

Dayan - 12.79, 12.13, 13.68, 13.81, 12.32+, 18.39, 11.53, 13.64+, 12.25, 13.49, 13.12, 13.95 = 13.12 (σ = 0.70)

Olook. My miniQJ time is faster than my Dayan or my X-cube. In fact the ES is less than .2 from my x-cube

Wanna know my secret?

Spoiler

turn slower = lock up less = look ahead better = less pauses = faster solves

It's really dependent on turn style. I just adjusted my turning to the cube I was using. Simple enough yes?

 

[Systemdertoten]

Waffo.

 

[aminayuko]

okay, you proved me wrong waffle=ijm. just one more question.

what 4x4 did you use to get your PB?

 

[Bapao]

I just adjusted my turning to the cube I was using

Well said.
Many people that are used to a certain cube as their main, will whine about the performance of other cubes when they first try/buy them. Even though those cubes might be mechanically "better" than what they are currently using.
IMO, It has a lot to do with what you are used to cubing with during the majority of your practice time. Over time, you automatically adapt your style to match the characteristics of the cube that you are used to solving with. When you get a different cube, try not diss it just because it doesn't suit your style. If you want to get the performance out of it that others might be praising, try being a bit more flexible. You might actually prefer the new hardware given enough time.

The X-Cube is one of the only cubes that I own that I would not recommend getting as your first 4x4x4. You need to turn the inner layers fast for them to perform well and there needs to be a certain fluidity in your movements to maintain speed. If you manipulate them with any hesitation, it feels like two cheese graters grinding over each other.

 

[RTh]

Dayan+Mf8 all the way. If you lube and adjust it right it'll way better than the XCube, no doubt about it.

Also it's way cheaper.