Am I doing it Right?

[uberCuber]

Hey... just to not create a new thread ill post my question here...

whats the point of edge fliping in petrus if U can insert the last couple of F2l pairs normaly?

because then you can do a 493-algorithm 1-look last layer, ZBLL. :3

 

[Kirjava]

I beg to differ.... Feliks Zemdegs(aka WR 3x3x3 holder) is color neutral... thats why im so focused into CN

CN could be making Feliks slower for all you know.

 

[AustinReed]

I beg to differ.... Feliks Zemdegs(aka WR 3x3x3 holder) is color neutral... thats why im so focused into CN

OMG, how many times have I heard that in the past 6 months or so?
A WHOLE FREAKIN' BUNCH!!

 

[waffle=ijm]

lol @ aka WR 3x3x3 holder.

I honestly went "nosht" when I saw what XD

 

[Athefre]

Full CN isn't a big deal.

I've been testing xy2Neutrality for a few months. Sometimes I'll get a few great solves in a row thanks to a nice first block. Usable pairs are more common than if I was just y2Neutral (most Roux users). It's usually easy to make the second block but I sometimes struggle with the lookahead because I sometimes forget what colors I'm supposed to be looking for.

Doing 25 solves, I averaged my move count for the first block with xy2Neutrality compared to y2Neutrality; using the same scramble for both and all picking the first things I saw - just like a speedsolve. The difference was only 7.4 moves compared to 8.00 moves. Maybe it was a bad string of solves or I'm not very good, but I expected a greater difference.

 

[Kirjava]

x2y2 ftw

 

[Athefre]

Definitely.

The only advantage, for speed, I see with using non-matching blocks is having a good first block. But, that leads to thinking that xy2Neutrality is better for speed. Then that leads to, like you said, x2y2.

 

[Ranzha]

If you're interested in Roux, try it out. There's no harm in that. But be persistent with it--don't just go "blockbuilding is hard fk it" and quit. Things take time to learn.

Additionally, I am an utter fixed cross user. CN is nice to have, but in the end, it's about how one reacts and solves the cases they have, and their execution is the direct result of what they have learned. Plenty of cubers are not CN but are still sub-15. CN isn't necessary, nor does it make a huge difference in the long run.

Oh, and the "aka WR 3x3x3 holder" thing is ridiculous. He got the WR because he is skilled, not because of a completely open solving orientation.

 

[Kirjava]

The only advantage, for speed, I see with using non-matching blocks is having a good first block.

idk man, sometimes I use it if there's a big chunk of the second block hanging around.

 

[spdcbr]

I like partial neutrality for roux...I was sub-25 fridrich before I made the switch. I never did CN, and I'm doing fine right now with roux

 

[uberCuber]

Oh, and the "aka WR 3x3x3 holder" thing is ridiculous. He got the WR because he is skilled, not because of a completely open solving orientation.

Oh is that why it's ridiculous? I thought it was ridiculous because of the fact that he felt the need to clarify who Feliks Zemdegs is....

 

[Aaronus23]

I like partial neutrality for roux...I was sub-25 fridrich before I made the switch. I never did CN, and I'm dong fine right now with roux

NOW THATS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!

guess i'll start roux then

 

[Athefre]

idk man, sometimes I use it if there's a big chunk of the second block hanging around.

I actually meant completely non-matching (including R/R' blocks). Which I guess doesn't matter much since it's rare to see a last pair that would make an easy R/R' block.

But yeah, I do the same as long as I quickly see how to put those free blocks together.

 

[Kirjava]

Oh. I don't consider R/R' viable at all. Certainly not worth the effort required to learn.

Possibly worth it for 2x2x2 though.

 

[Athefre]

Gotta get someone to learn 2x2x2 NMCLL and find out.

 

[Ltsurge]

NOW THATS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!

guess i'll start roux then

if thats what u wanted to hear then u probs should have don't it without asking...

 

[Georgeanderre]

Definitly Colour neutral before Roux, you will speed up fast that way