Memory Method Proposal: Condensed Sentences
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riffz
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Now that I've been trying this, the adjectives are somewhat difficult to recall, as they are very arbitrary in relation to the noun they describe. Anyone else having a similar difficulty?
Erzz
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This is almost what I do except I use just single letters and don't plan words. (I use old pochmann)
The sentences are usually easy to remember ('Xenial elephants hide under tables because candycanes eat popcorn' would be XEHUTBCEP)
I make two sentences, one for corners and another for edges. X is usually Xylophone or Xenial. I personally find this method very simple and easy to remember.
Edit: I don't try to imagine the image.
The sentences are usually easy to remember ('Xenial elephants hide under tables because candycanes eat popcorn' would be XEHUTBCEP)
I make two sentences, one for corners and another for edges. X is usually Xylophone or Xenial. I personally find this method very simple and easy to remember.
Edit: I don't try to imagine the image.
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riffz
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Well yea, tons of people use what you describe, except with letter pairs for each word. The distinguishing feature of this is how condensed it makes the memo.
toastman
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Can you give us an example of the sort of adjectives you are using? I don't use them now, but seemed to do OK when I was using things like "colours" (A purple watermelon), and things that would definitely "make an object look different".
I'd apply it to "watermelon" and if it made sense, I'd use it: The sort of things that worked:
Red, slimy, spotty, stripy, holey, glowing, flaming, electrocuted (XC), hovering, battered (as in deep-fried), orbitting, swarming. Or "verbs" like "spewing", "peeing" etc (I looked it up, these are called "Gerunds"). Put the word "watermelon" after each of these, and you should be able to picture it.
Things that don't work so well:
Loud, Stupid, crazy, quiet, boring, tasty, handsome, smelly and verbs like thinking, judging.
While I'm here, Indeed some people say these techniques are overkill for 3BLD, but I find it awesome for multi-BLD and stuff like memoing packs of cards. Trouble is, I have to come up with a lot of these things on the fly. My list is about 1/3 finished (and I need A-Z of people, verbs and objects), which is 2028 words. I do a few cells every day. Takes forever, but it's so going to be worth it!
I'd apply it to "watermelon" and if it made sense, I'd use it: The sort of things that worked:
Red, slimy, spotty, stripy, holey, glowing, flaming, electrocuted (XC), hovering, battered (as in deep-fried), orbitting, swarming. Or "verbs" like "spewing", "peeing" etc (I looked it up, these are called "Gerunds"). Put the word "watermelon" after each of these, and you should be able to picture it.
Things that don't work so well:
Loud, Stupid, crazy, quiet, boring, tasty, handsome, smelly and verbs like thinking, judging.
While I'm here, Indeed some people say these techniques are overkill for 3BLD, but I find it awesome for multi-BLD and stuff like memoing packs of cards. Trouble is, I have to come up with a lot of these things on the fly. My list is about 1/3 finished (and I need A-Z of people, verbs and objects), which is 2028 words. I do a few cells every day. Takes forever, but it's so going to be worth it!
toastman
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Although it'd be a mammoth task, I also thought of the following. Sort of "chaining" images with a verb.
Person-Verb-Object-VERBING-Person-Verb-Object-VERBING-Person...
Homer Simpson Kicks-a Watermelon SPLATTERING Spiderman Lassooing Fudge (which then) TRIPS Adam Ant
(HS-KC-WM-SP-SM-LS-FJ-TR-AA). The image of the watermelon splattering on spiderman's head means that it's easier to remember the last "object" in the chain than a set of 3 separate PVO images.
Potentially you could throw an adjective before each object, meaning each "group" would be 10 letters. Again, more if you're into memory sports I guess. I've sort of abandoned this approach, could barely come up with 26 "chain-words", let alone 676.
Again, love to hear more of your ideas.
Tim Major
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I have kind of been using this, but not quite as compressed. I use audio for corners, and short sentences for corners. I use auditory edges on my fast/reckless attempts, but it just isn't reliable. Audio pairs like IU WE UI UE WI WH are too hard to differentiate. I had an idea inspired by Zubon's method, in which he uses Japanese characters. Japanese characters are unique, as they can't change, like our letters can. "ku" is always pronounced "koo", never "ka", so instead of assigning letters to stickers, he assigns sounds (Japanese characters) to stickers, so they usually make words, and if not, they're still memorable sounds, as they don't have silent letters, or letters like C and U which change depending on the preceding letters.
Then I thought of audio loop, with premade pairs, so difficult ones could have something assigned, which is the basic concept here.
If I was ever to take on bld as my main event(s), I would look into learning this, but even a single letter pair list was too much for me. I've been using semi compressed sentences, where you have a 1/2 word filler inbetween some of the groups. I make up an object/person/action for the letter pair, then incorporate it as tightly to the previous one as I can.
Then I thought of audio loop, with premade pairs, so difficult ones could have something assigned, which is the basic concept here.
If I was ever to take on bld as my main event(s), I would look into learning this, but even a single letter pair list was too much for me. I've been using semi compressed sentences, where you have a 1/2 word filler inbetween some of the groups. I make up an object/person/action for the letter pair, then incorporate it as tightly to the previous one as I can.
riffz
Veteran
Well, as I said in the original post, the sentence doesn't need to make sense. So although it would obviously make things slightly more memorable to use gerunds, I don't think it's necessary. But I'm only planning on using this for 3BLD.
As long as you place the images along a linear route, remembering the next set of PVO images shouldn't cause problems anyway. This thread isn't about using images, though.
Not really. This is supposed to stick for a little longer than audio loop because it forms a syntactically correct phrase/sentence. The words don't need to be one syllable either.
nickvu2
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Instead of starting a Google Doc, I propose just adding to the existing Letter Pairs wiki page and just tag the words with their part of speech. It might look something like this:
FP
In fact, I'm going to add these now =)
FP
- Falcon Punch
- Flipper
- Frappachino (starbucks bottle)
- Fire Place
- Face Paints [verb]
- Face Plants [verb]
- Face Palms [verb]
- Frappy [adj]
- Factory Priced [adj]
- Fast-paced [adj]
- Flippantly [adv]
In fact, I'm going to add these now =)
riffz
Veteran
I've actually decided against learing/using this for now. I'd prefer to work on a PAO list, as this would still help a lot for 3x3, but even more so for big cubes and multi, which I really want to start practicing.
riffz
Veteran
Okay, I was just practicing and as soon as I started using sentences my times were ~20s faster. So I WILL be using sentences, just not this condensed method. The adjectives screw me up, but I will be making a list of nouns and verbs. Gah.
nickvu2
Veteran
Yeah, I've always had a hard time with adjectives and adverbs (back when I was using single letter words). After I finish learning my letter pair nouns, I intend to start a verb list. Riffz, even if condensed sentences don't work out, I still find your idea insightful and inspiring, and it's helped define my next step. Cheers =)
PS-please share your verb list when you finish it!
PS-please share your verb list when you finish it!
