2-gen contest

[Lucas Garron]

Somehow, 2-generator isn't done enough. So, here's a contest of 12 scrambles to compare our 2-gen times (and so that I can see if my 6.xx avg is in danger ). Scramble 2-gen, solve 2-gen, record your times:

1. R2 U R2 U2 R U' R U' R' U' R' U2 R' U' R U'
2. R' U R' U2 R2 U2 R' U' R2 U R2 U2 R' U2 R U'
3. R' U2 R' U2 R U R U2 R U2 R' U' R U2 R' U'
4. U R U R2 U' R U' R U R2 U R U' R U' R
5. R' U' R2 U R' U2 R U R' U R2 U R U2 R2 U2
6. R' U R U' R U2 R' U R2 U' R2 U2 R U R2 U2
7. R' U R2 U2 R U2 R2 U2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' R U2
8. R U' R U2 R U R2 U2 R U R U' R2 U2 R2 U'
9. U2 R2 U2 R' U' R2 U2 R' U2 R U2 R U' R2 U2 R'
10. R2 U' R2 U2 R' U2 R U R' U' R' U' R2 U2 R' U2
11. R U' R' U2 R2 U2 R U R U2 R2 U R' U' R U
12. R' U2 R2 U R' U2 R U' R' U' R' U R2 U R' U'

(9.19), 7.48, 7.06, 6.72, 8.45, 8.18, 7.41, 9.01, 5.71, 7.77, 9.18, (5.13)
>7.70, bad

By the way, I can't prevent side-talk, but could we keep it to discussing times , algs, etc. instead of "wut's 2gin? is it just twisting 2 sides?" (it is) and "can i allowed to twist F face in my solve?" (No, you may not. But you're welcome to create a new event for that.)?

 

[Siraj A.]

Times: 10.42, (14.93), 14.42, 9.09, 13.83, 12.55, 8.91, (6.67), 10.73, 8.94, 10.97, 8.21

Avg: 10.81

I was going for sub-10 here but I failed! Not knowing a 2-gen Z-perm doesn't help.

 

[fanwuq]

Very bad, no warm up.
The 22 was a pop.
Average: 14.48 seconds
Individual Times: 17.41, (22.41), 12.72, 17.20, 19.42, 14.34, 11.12, 14.52, 17.25, (08.98), 09.89, 10.88

I hate the 2-3 look OLL and Z perm. They are the sup-14s. If I know the 2gen OLL and PLLs, I can average sub-10. The last 3 are the usual 2LLL. I remember doing this a few weeks ago and getting a few sub-7 solves and a 10-12 second average.

 

[jtjogobonito]

Times:
(10.05), 9.55, 9.69, 8.13, 9.86, (6.11), 7.80, 7.09, 7.77, 7.94, 9.92, 6.28

Average=8.40

Alright my goal was to lose by less than a second to Lucas. Those first three solves were 2gen warm ups.

 

[ExoCorsair]

(7.66) 14.52 12.11 10.53 13.88 12.31 9.52 (16.75) 15.34 11.88 14.89 8.20 = 12.13

My TPS is low.

 

[Harris Chan]

6.13, 6.66, (7.91), 5.09, 5.30, 6.21, 6.16, 6.97, 6.66, 5.96, 6.93, (3.55) (PLL skipped)

=6.21 seconds.

Lol I remember trying this back when I was around 20s, and I got 7s just because of PLL skipped (averaged around 10-12 with 2 gen at the time). I was using 2 step OLL for some of the OLLs (based on Joel's beginner tutorial)

 

[Jason Baum]

(04.42), 06.11, 06.05, 05.61, 05.67, 06.28, 06.72, 04.98, 06.47, 05.31, (07.62), 05.38 = 5.86

Four or five of the solves had easy 2 gen ZBLL cases. Finally ZBLL pays off

 

[Lofty]

9.97 average...
I think I can do faster OH as RU turns are much more natural there.
This makes me want to finish the 2GLL algs I generated...
Where can I get random 2gen scrambles? I can't join the chat for some reason to get them there.

 

[Harris Chan]

Omg o.O ZB rocks man, but I haven't learn any new algorithms in the past half year lol (or did I? hmmmmm).

 

[pjk]

9.97 average...
I think I can do faster OH as RU turns are much more natural there.
This makes me want to finish the 2GLL algs I generated...
Where can I get random 2gen scrambles? I can't join the chat for some reason to get them there.

Along with the Chat Room link from this forum, there is this, which connects to the same place: http://www.strangepuzzle.com/chat.php . I doubt that is the difference, but it is worth a try.

My times:
Average: 08.56 seconds
Individual Times: (06.05), (10.45), 09.34, 06.97, 08.55, 08.81, 08.34, 08.86, 08.61, 09.03, 09.02, 08.03

 

[DavidWoner]

9.97 average...
I think I can do faster OH as RU turns are much more natural there.
This makes me want to finish the 2GLL algs I generated...
Where can I get random 2gen scrambles? I can't join the chat for some reason to get them there.

you can always use regular scrambles and ignore the letter, only paying attention to the ', 2, or plain letter demarcation and just alternate R and U.
so D' L2 F R U2 B' would become R' U2 R U R2 U'. a little slower to scramble but i think it would work.

also lucas i'm sorry for side-talking but i think this falls under the "etc" that you mentioned. i will do these soon.

 

[Ron]

7.22 average
best #11: 4.71
worst #3: 12.24

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

4.31 5.36 6.38 4.36 6.11 (8.38) 7.59 6.40 (4.09) 6.47 5.65 4.96 => 5.76

Suck on that Lucas! (tons of easy scrambles)

 

[Johannes91]

8.23 7.34 7.66 5.77 8.09 9.66 6.22 (4.75) 5.36 (11.18) 8.30 6.27 => 7.29 avg

I think I could drop at least a second easily if I practised this a bit. I'm not used to being restricted to the two sides.

Where can I get random 2gen scrambles?

My JavaScript scrambler can generate them.

 

[Stefan]

Average: 09.47 seconds
Individual Times: 11.05, 08.23, (14.42), 12.19, (06.58), 06.98, 08.92, 09.86, 07.03, 09.61, 13.39, 07.42

I've been wanting to run a competition like this ever since I noticed the category had disappeared from speedcubing.com. I'd like to see it back, and I think high quality scrambling and many interested people could achieve it.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Okay, just so you can all laugh at me, here I am. I've never tried it before; I did a few solves first to make sure I could do it at all. I use hardly any 2-gen algorithms, so I have very little to work with - all I have is Sune, a U perm I don't know very well and am therefore very slow with, and the rest is intuitive.

31.71 seconds:
28.16, 16.97, 41.98, 23.89, 25.80, (1:21.34), 29.26, 27.31, 1:03.50, 21.28, 38.98, (12.75)

On the worst one there, I put a pair in the wrong way into the wrong slot, and spent about 30 seconds trying to get the other pair to go in the other wrong slot until I realized what I did wrong.

Wow, I'm about the same at this as I am with regular 3x3x3. How sad.

At least I had a good last solve. Maybe I was just starting to get better when I quit.

 

[Dene]

Mine would be: DNF (unless I didn't have to cycle corners in a single solve). I can't 2-gen corner cycle.

 

[Stefan]

Dene, just try it. Seriously.

 

[fanwuq]

Mine would be: DNF (unless I didn't have to cycle corners in a single solve). I can't 2-gen corner cycle.

Stefan is right. If you scramble with 2 sides, you can always solve with 2 sides. And when you only move 2 sides, the corner permutation is always correct. Just solve F2L and orient with sune and finish with U perm (unless you know more optimal algs).

 

[Lofty]

yay I just did 12 scrambles OH on Johannes' wonderful scramble generator and got:

Average: 09.73 sec.

Fastest Time: 04.81
Slowest Time: 11.43
Standard Deviation: 01.37

Individual Times:
1) 11.23
2) 07.23
3) 10.61
4) (11.43)
5) 10.55
6) (04.81)
7) 09.26
8) 10.34
9) 10.84
10) 09.25
11) 10.33
12) 07.61