Viscosity of Lubix Found! Cheaper Alternative!

[amostay2004]

So I just bought 50,000 cps differential oil, did some research, and discovered something interesting. Basically there are 3 types of weight measurements that I've seen so far: weight (wt), cps (centipoise), and cSt (centistoke).

Some say that 50,000wt is approximately the same as Lubix, but Dan (and probably some others) also said he bought 60,000 cSt and commented that it is quite similar to Lubix, maybe even heavier.

Now the wt value is VERY different from cps and cSt. According to this table, there's not much difference in the cps and cSt values when measuring viscosity, but according to this calculator, 60,000 cps is only approximately 2315 wt. (50,000 wt is approximately 2291130 cps!)

From what I can see, the 50,000 cps differential oil that I have has pretty much similar thickness to my Lubix, though I think it would be hard to judge just by looking.

 

[satellitedanny]

while you probably wouldnt be disappointed with the shock oil, i believe the OP is talking about 50000cS differential oil.

Actually, The measurement is in Weight (WT) not Cs, I looked it up and the Cs to WT conversion is very far from eachother. but some people like Dan use it and say that it is very good.

 

[satellitedanny]

Eagerly looking forward to the new results. Also, was there a big difference between 30,000wt and 50,000wt?

Nope, 30'000 WT is just a lot runnier and easier to apply but there are downsides because the 30'000 could drip out of your cube; the 50k stays where it is and spreads out when you turn the cube so you get an even coverage.

 

[Deleted member 12389]

On my 30k tube from Japan, it uses "water=1" for comparison :confused:

Some description of the difference btw shock and diff oil described here

 

[anuradha]

Nope, 30'000 WT is just a lot runnier and easier to apply but there are downsides because the 30'000 could drip out of your cube; the 50k stays where it is and spreads out when you turn the cube so you get an even coverage.

Just to be sure, did you use Ofna 50,000wt diff oil for your first round of viscosity measurements, or a different brand?

 

[satellitedanny]

Just to be sure, did you use Ofna 50,000wt diff oil for your first round of viscosity measurements, or a different brand?

Yep same brand, I actually re-did the experiment with other brands like Traxxas, Mugen basically companies of Diff oil my friend had lying around the house that was 50k WT; they were pretty close except a cheaper brand was a LOT thinner. Oh yeah good news, my friend Sam emailed Donovan so that we could send him a bottle of some 50k Wt diff oil for him to compare as well as some of my experimental lube (Just some stuff I mixed together during Science fair)

 

[satellitedanny]

Well, it's it time to bump the thread once again.
I have a question, anybody know of a good WT to CST conversion chart, I compared a few and they aren't very consistent LOL

 

[ElectricDoodie]

Well, it's it time to bump the thread once again.
I have a question, anybody know of a good WT to CST conversion chart, I compared a few and they aren't very consistent LOL

Read amostay's post.


Also, I just ordered a Lubix Ultimate, and a syringe with Lubix. I should be getting it in about a month.
I'll be able to compare it to my 50,000wt Traxxas Diff Oil.

 

[Deleted member 12389]

The dif oil does not seem to last.

This does last:

I re-applied diff oil once it is 'dry'. Once it is 'dry' again, I used my cube-lube type liquid on an edge (just a drop, without cleaning). Now it turns very smoothly (like sliding on a marble floor lubed with oil).

Have done the the same for my MF8 legend (received last night) - opposite routine: apply lube, scrambled/solved for 30 mins, then apply diff oil on one edge. Turns very nicely. Will see if it last...

 

[ElectricDoodie]

The dif oil does not seem to last.

Really? That's weird. I've never seen anyone complain about Lubix or other Differential Oils not lasting.

I have had my Diff Oil in my cube for over 3 weeks, and still haven't needed to reapply. It's almost as fast and smooth as the first time I applied it.

 

[Deleted member 12389]

Probably its the brand I am using (Japanese)...I like it though, especially when "mixed" with my other lube.
Not having lubix myself, I wonder if this is what lubix really is: waxy thin liquid mixed with high visc diff type oil.

Edit: or is it because mine is 30k only...

 

[Rubiks560]

Thinking about getting a bottle of this. Whats the exact kind I should get? (Links would be nice.)

 

[ElectricDoodie]

Thinking about getting a bottle of this. Whats the exact kind I should get? (Links would be nice.)

Read the rest of the thread, and there are plenty of links and which types do what.
I personally got Traxxas 50k Diff Oil.

Probably its the brand I am using (Japanese)...I like it though, especially when "mixed" with my other lube.
Not having lubix myself, I wonder if this is what lubix really is: waxy thin liquid mixed with high visc diff type oil.

Edit: or is it because mine is 30k only...

30k is a bit more runny than 50k, but I've never used Lubix, so I wouldn't know either.
I'm waiting to get Lubix in the mail, in the next 3 weeks.

 

[Deleted member 12389]

On my new Guhong, I put a dab on 2 edges. It seems to last. Probably on my first Guhong, I did not properly clean out the old lube. I just wiped it with a dry tissue paper.
With the new Guhong, the oil stays...

 

[ElectricDoodie]

On my new Guhong, I put a dab on 2 edges. It seems to last. Probably on my first Guhong, I did not properly clean out the old lube. I just wiped it with a dry tissue paper.
With the new Guhong, the oil stays...

You should follow the same application instruction as Lubix.
Watch his video on his site. It's basically a tiny bit on each connection point of the core, and a drop on one cubie.

 

[sofeeuhh]

So you have both the 30kwt and lubix, and you have tried out both, and you say that they perform the same.....this is very interesting! Lubix is rather expensive and the quantities are fairly small compared to other 11oz bottles of CRC and Jig-A-Loo that you can buy. I hope they do perform the same, I think I'll buy some of this!
And also, I found a differential oil on Amazon that is 50k weight and is cheaper than the 30k weight. Would this be okay to buy too?
http://www.amazon.com/Traxxas-Oil-differential-50K-weight/dp/B000BOLVFI/ref=pd_sbs_t_2

Oh and for the F2L help: One really big thing I found to help me is just watching videos on YouTube. I've watched many, many 3x3 walkthrough solves, tips and tricks, and just tons of videos about F2L, and now my F2L is currently around 6-8 seconds.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

So you have both the 30kwt and lubix, and you have tried out both, and you say that they perform the same.....this is very interesting!

You really didn't read this thread, did you?

First off, the OP clearly says 50,000wt. He said that if you can't find 50k, then 30k would be a close substitution.
Second, not that many people have used both Lubix and Diff Oil and compared them. There are a few on this board, such as OP and Dan. Dan used 60,000cSt, and said it was very similar.

Unless you are talking about 1 person on here, who I can't find right now, then I don't know who you're talking about.
And I don't now why you would follow that one post, instead of the dozens of other ones.

 

[sofeeuhh]

ElectricDoodie: Obviously I read the thread if I summarized what he said......Lol. And you clearly don't understand that sentence, because I said "that is very interesting" afterwards, indicating that I thought it was something new and something I've never heard about. NOT that I didn't understand it. You really didn't need to tell me what I basically said in different words.

Unless you are talking about 1 person on here, who I can't find right now, then I don't know who you're talking about. And I don't now why you would follow that one post, instead of the dozens of other ones.

Sorry, but I really have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

And also, I found a differential oil on Amazon that is 50k weight and is cheaper than the 30k weight. Would this be okay to buy too?

ElectricDoodie: Obviously I read the thread if I summarized what he said......Lol.

No need to lie.
Why would you have asked if 50k is ok, when he obviously and clearly said that 50k is what you SHOULD buy, and that if you can't get 50k, you can settle for 30k?

If you HAD read the thread, your question shouldn't even exist.

 

[sofeeuhh]

Maybe to make sure? When you question something, the other person tends to give more detail about it so you can better understand. Chill out.