Sexuality

[Kirjava]

Feel free to delete this if it is inappropriate.

Sexuality is a strange concept. For a long time I saw it as black and white, and I think my mindset was influenced by society treating sexuality this way. Looking back, that just seems so artificial to me.

After an enlightening few years, I came to almost throw away the concept of sexuality completely. Some of you may have heard of the kinsey scale, which definies how 'much' you are homosexual or heterosexual which allows for 'inbetween' states. I don't even think this is a valid measure, as 'sexuality' can change over time.

I think that the main thing keeping people in 'heterosexual' or otherwise mindsets is not being open to allowing themselves to feel anything else, and even going to the point of deluding themselves into ignoring feelings that they don't see as acceptable. Maybe if people weren't so tainted by thoughts like this they'd come to the realisation that gender simply isn't as important as how much you like a specific person.

I find it hard to believe that someone could say that they would never be attracted to someone that doesn't fit within their spectrum of sexuality. How can you be so sure? Just because it's not happened so far doesn't mean it never will. Sure, if you keep telling yourself that and don't allow anything to happen - it never will. However, I'm sure that if you didn't refuse thoughts like this they may stumble into your brain sooner or later. You may even enjoy them!

Sexuality doesn't exist. Discuss.

 

[Athefre]

I agree. It's ignorance and fear. Ignorance because they don't know that the possibility for change is there and fear because, if they do see the possibility, they wonder how people would judge them (and most people would judge them negatively).

I consider myself "straight" but sometimes I do feel like I could become bi. Sort of like an acquired taste. Most of the time I feel like "Ew, not interested in that", but there are these rare times when I think "I could get into that eventually".

 

[theace]

Society is what tries to keep people straight. It's the whole 'what will THEY think' syndrome. People usually shove their feelings into a hole just so they aren't judged, forgetting their own desires in the process and THINKING that they are something they plain and simply aren't.

This doesn't apply JUST to sexuality. The problem with social BS is everywhere. I'll elaborate some other time...

 

[Ordos_Koala]

but what is the point? if someone want to be hetero, why would you try to convince him to be bi? there's nothing wrong with it, but some poeple just like felling "normal"

 

[amostay2004]

but what is the point? if someone want to be hetero, why would you try to convince him to be bi? there's nothing wrong with it, but some poeple just like felling "normal"

No one is convincing anyone. He's just trying to say that we shouldn't stick to a certain mindset or consider a certain sexual orientation to be normal.

 

[Ordos_Koala]

No one is convincing anyone. He's just trying to say that we shouldn't stick to a certain mindset or consider a certain sexual orientation to be normal.

I put it in extreme example... I don't say that being gay isn't normal

 

[cmhardw]

I love Louis C.K.'s take on sexuality. His view is that discrimination based on sexual preference is one of the strangest discriminations there is. When a group racially discriminates against another race, as Louis puts it, and I'm paraphrasing here as I don't remember his exact words, it goes something like "You people are terrible, get away from us. Go over there and be with each other, don't be near us." But with discrimination based on sexuality, more specifically discrimination against any sexuality that is non-hetero, the phrasing is more like "You people are terrible, come over and be with us (other heteros). Don't be with each other, that's terrible! Be with us!"

In regards to sexuality I'm generally of the opinion that people should be whatever it is that they are, as long as being who they are does not infringe on the rights of another person to be happy and be who they are. People don't choose their sexuality, they are who they are. Discriminating against a person for their sexuality is no different than discriminating against them for the color of their skin, or where they were born.

 

[Stefan]

Someone had too much Aki

Some of you may have heard of the kinsey scale, which definies how 'much' you are homosexual or heterosexual which allows for 'inbetween' states. I don't even think this is a valid measure, as 'sexuality' can change over time.

• "The Kinsey scale attempts to describe a person's sexual history or episodes of their sexual activity at a given time."
• "based on the relative amounts of heterosexual and homosexual experience or response in each history"
• "An individual may be assigned a position on this scale, for each period in his life."

-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Scale

Looks like it does take change into consideration. Also looks like it measures actual history, how would that be invalid?

Sexuality doesn't exist. Discuss.

Not sure "sexuality" is what you're talking about, at least what Dictionary.com and Wikipedia have sounds different and surely exists.

 

[Quadrescence]

Im against "Gay" people. I don't know why it's just a natural feeling. I hate everything they do.

And no I am not a Jesus lover. I just feel that they have a mental disability from previous childhood experiences. I do not think they are born with the mind to think they are attracted to oppisite sex, I think it has to with growing up in certain conditions that make the child think the way they do. There is no gay gene, its in their brain that they think they are gay. they are making fools of themselves running around in girlish clothes and hitting on their own sex. I am not trying to be rude I just don't understand the evolutionary aspect and mental aspect

I think if signs of homosexualty is detected in a child he/she should get medical help to find what is troubling the person. (If there are gay cubers in this room i will of course get flamed with response like "We were born like this"

Also if they are there own "Race" i find it disgusting to go into a changing room in P.E and having all the gays stare at me like its some kind of a porn fest. Uhh.

If you truly believe gay people are born with their disease they should have their own rooms to change in.

Once again i am not trying to offend gay people, i just find it disgusting and pointless to do what they do.

If i have offended any members of the gay community this post will be removed.

yeah

i just dont think its right for them to have sexual things togetherl

like come on ... a dick inside a dick

 

[kinch2002]

Im against "Gay" people. I don't know why it's just a natural feeling. I hate everything they do...

So are you against the state of being gay or not? You say that you are, and then say that you just don't like what they do. I know that being gay often leads to doing things that mark them out as different, but that's not the same as their status. I can't possibly see how anyone can be against the state of being gay itself.

And no I am not a Jesus lover...

I hope you're not implying that followers of Jesus hate gay people. Although that might be true for some Christians, it only applies to a very small group of them nowadays. Most believe that gay acts are wrong, but that the existence of different sexual orientations is fine.

 

[hatter]

I hate everything they do.

I stopped here. Obviously you are ignorant and close minded. I'm gay and I like to cube. You're on a cubing forum and you therefore like something I like. But... You hate everything I do?

And kirjava, I mostly agree with you. However, gender =/= sexuality. I also believe gender is a spectrum and not black and white (similar to how you believe sexuality is).


I would like to hope that regardless of what any of you think of sexuality, everyone should agree that it is unconstitutional, immoral, etc to not only VOTE on the rights of people but to also take them away and/or deny them of rights. That's probay a discussion for another day, though.

 

[Stefan]

I think if signs of homosexualty is detected in a child he/she should get medical help to find what is troubling the person.

I'm guessing that would be people like you.

i just find it disgusting and pointless to do what they do.

Because you would never have sex for pleasure, only for reproduction?

 

[ElectricDoodie]

People don't choose their sexuality, they are who they are.

This actually hasn't been proven, and is a strong debate in the Sexual studies.
It's the whole Nature vs Nurture thing.

Also, Kir, you should take Human Sexual Behavior in college.
Really good class.

 

[James Ludlow]

I just don't like Gok Wan.

That is all.

 

[StachuK1992]

Might I request for members to state their age and religion when posting?

On such topic: 17, undecided. Brought up "gay-neutral" for the most part.

I consider myself "straight" but sometimes I do feel like I could become bi. Sort of like an acquired taste. Most of the time I feel like "Ew, not interested in that", but there are these rare times when I think "I could get into that eventually".

This.
For me, I see it as "I like the characteristics of person x," so I'd like to date (or whatnot) with them. Gender influences this greatly, but not to such an extent that I would never date someone of the same gender; if an instance came up in which I would want to, I would not fight myself here. Unless most males (at least the ones I've encountered), I'm absolutely open to saying whether some guy is 'cute' or whatnot; physical attractiveness and sexual desires are related, but not a direct link. While I have only been in "straight" relationships, the idea of something otherwise would not deter me from following my heart.

 

[cmhardw]

This actually hasn't been proven, and is a strong debate in the Sexual studies.
It's the whole Nature vs Nurture thing.

I'll admit that I'm certainly no expert on this topic. I definitely think it makes perfect sense that a person can consciously chose to act a different way than their inherent sexuality leads them, but that their sexuality is (mostly) determined as a core part of who they are.

Again, this is only my opinion, and I feel it doesn't carry any more weight than any other opinion in this thread. I am open to being convinced otherwise, it's just that I have not yet been.

 

[Stefan]

I hope you're not implying that followers of Jesus hate gay people. Although that might be true for some Christians, it only applies to a very small group of them nowadays. Most believe that gay acts are wrong, but that the existence of different sexual orientations is fine.

Do you have polls or so that show this?

 

[hatter]

If it is a choice, why are gay teens 30 to 40% more likely to commit suicide? Why would ANYONE choose to be gay? The word itself is used to describe something as "lame" or "stupid". Why would you choose to be with someone that you cannot marry and get the legal rights that marriage brings? Why would you of yourself through a much more difficult life?


Did you know that when a woman is pregnant with a boy, her body sort of "attacks" it by releasing a chemical (maybe more estrogen? I'm on my phone so I don't want to look it up right now). The more boys a woman has, the chances her son will be gay increases and researches believe it is because of the chemicals released when she is pregnant.

 

[d4m4s74]

The only people who think homosexualilty is a choice, are people who themselves are bisexual.

But seriously, I have straight friends, I have gay friends and I've dated both straight girls and gay guys (yes, I'm bi, deal with it), and except for who they love I don't see a real difference, so even if it's a choice (I believe it's not) why care?

Did you know that when a woman is pregnant with a boy, her body sort of "attacks" it by releasing a chemical (maybe more estrogen? I'm on my phone so I don't want to look it up right now). The more boys a woman has, the chances her son will be gay increases and researches believe it is because of the chemicals released when she is pregnant.

inb4 Because their other sons start leaving the house mothers try to be as close to their child as possible, "mothering" them more, leading them to be more like their mother (as in loving the same thing as their mother, as in guys)
it's a default defense in the nature versus nurture thing.

for those who don't know. inb4 is a way to make sure others will not say that.

 

[d4m4s74]

Who else believes the man in black is simply a troll?