Simple alg for OLL 57 (1 trigger twice and a U2)

[rishidoshi]

Hey guys.
<standard blah> This may have already been posted but it didnt show in search results. So i'l post it anyway.</standard blah blah> jk
Okay so if you do a conventional 2 look for this you will run into the dreaded Headlights.

I found this by accident yesterday...
y (f R U R' U' f') U2 (f R U R' U' f')
The 1st trigger just leads you into the simple OLL 44
I don't know whether this classifies as a 2look or a single look OLL.
Well it feels as fast as a single look though. And much better than the conventional 2 look atleast.
(f R U R' U' f') U2 (f R U R' U' f')

EDIT: This alg may be benificial for 2-lookers.

 

[slocuber]

Or (R U R' U') M U R U' r'

EDIT: (R U R' U') M' U R U' r'

 

[IngeniousBanana]

I'm sticking with the above one.

 

[rishidoshi]

Or (R U R' U') M U R U' r'

totally agree. but wat i posted is good for ppl who dont know the full oll & might run into the headlights via 2 look. they only know a few triggers n moves. anyway it was just a thot

 

[ben1996123]

Or (R U R' U') M U R U' r'

I use this one and can sub .8 it.

 

[Diniz]

Or you could just use SuneOLL.. =P

(R U2 R' U' R U' R') (r U R' U R U2 R')

 

[theace]

I use (R U R' U') M U R U' r'. However, the one you posted is a decent alg for beginners.

 

[Erik]

Or (R U R' U') M U R U' r'

Let me fix that for ya: (R U R' U') M' U R U' r'

 

[Cubenovice]

Let me fix that for ya: (R U R' U') M' U R U' r'

Who's idea was it to define the M slice direction counter-intuitive?
I always struggle with this notation...

 

[slocuber]

I use (R U R' U') M U R U' r'. However, the one you posted is a decent alg for beginners.

I thought it is in the same direction as R moves, but I guess it follows L moves. Thanks for that, Erik

 

[Kirjava]

Who's idea was it to define the M slice direction counter-intuitive?

Possibly Marc Waterman. Minh Thai defined it the other way.

LFD = MSE

If anything, E is the odd one.

 

[irontwig]

Frank Schiereck:
http://rubikscube.info/waterman/booklet.php

 

[maggot]

this is the same as angelfish OLL, OLL 28
it can be done as F R U R' U' F' U2 F R U R' U' F' but the M U M' one is much faster and almost as easy to memorize.
i think an eaiser even more beginner friendly way to do this OLL (the H one) is
M' U M' U M' U M' U2 M' U M' U M' U M' it is super fast fingertrick wise, it is just a lot of moves lol. talk about easy to memorize. . .

 

[Kenneth]

It's nothing wrong with the direction of M. You cannot move M, it is stuck in the core, what you do is force R and L to move together. So if you do a M' and compare to R you find it moved CCW, L on the other hand (hehe) moves CW

M = R + L'
M' = R' + L

maggot, I know people uses that because they are afraid of practising M =) But I find this shorter alg a bit better : M' U' M' U' M' U2 M U' M U' M [AUF]

I use U' because I do it lefty, inverse all U if you find that better, it works the same (you can also inverse all M's, or both)

Another, two 3-cycles : M' U2 M .. d .. M U' R2 U M U' R2 [AUF] ... or : M U2 M' .. d' .. M' U R2 U' M U R2 [AUF]

d is setup for the second alg, U + y' does the same

Edit: aha, OLL, I was doing pure flips

OLL then, a 3-cycle: (x') M' U' R U M U' R' U .. same cycle as the Rw alg but one move shorter.

 

[Kirjava]

M = R + L'
M' = R' + L

That's cool, I never thought about it like that before.

Although, there is nothing wrong with the direction of M because either way would be valid. It's completely arbitrary.

 

[maggot]

That's cool, I never thought about it like that before.

Although, there is nothing wrong with the direction of M because either way would be valid. It's completely arbitrary.

i believe the whole cube notation is arbitrary. i still dont try to make sense of it, i just do it.

and kenneth: your alg is much shorter, but try to perform my alg fast, even a beginner could perform it fast lol. (not that yours with less moves cant be, but to a complete noob, this is a good alg to start with) i learned my long alg when i first started diving into OLL. I hated headlights case! so i found all the cases that would come out to be headlights after EO (F U R U' R' F'). . this is one of them. so, M moves were really uncool for me when i first started learning this, especially if they were mixed in with wide turns and such, so i just found this really long one that was super easy to memo and could still be performed fast for my skill level. i still perform it for fun if i come across it and i have a bad F2L or something.

 

[riffz]

M = R + L'
M' = R' + L

Ooooooooh, I never realized...

 

[Cubenovice]

Thank you all for the excellent feedback on M move notation!

 

[Cool Frog]

M = R + L'
M' = R' + L

I think your missing something
When I do M' U I get something different than R' L U
So M' =/= R' + L?

 

[teller]

I think your missing something
When I do M' U I get something different than R' L U
So M' =/= R' + L?

M' = R' + L + x