When will the v-cube 2, 3, 4, 6b, 8, 9, 10, or 11 coming out?

[freshcuber]

Just because you want the 8x8 released doesn't me that releasing the 2x2 was a bad idea. If you're so begging for an 8x8, you make it. See what it takes to accomplish such a feat. I guarantee you that it's not as simple as it looks. If you have the solution to the V-6's problems write up a patent, make a prototype and start selling it to us all. I'm sure your design would be different enough that he wouldn't be able to say anything about it since you'd have to change it so much to eliminate the need for the clicking mechanism. The Dazzler and Illusion make Verdes money. Why, you may ask? They're cheap to produce You may not want it but if it's easy to manufacture and can bring a profit then why not make it? The money those cubes brought in have helped to finance the development of new V-Cubes, such as the V-2.

I'm not sure why you consider the V-2 "cheap" or that it's being thrown in your face. Seeing as how most people have never touched one you can't say anything about it's quality. Or are you saying the V-2 isn't as worthy because it's only a 2x2 and not the magnificent 8x8 you've been waiting for?

If V-Cube want's to try and make the pillowed design it's trademark, then let them. They could released a pillowed 2-11 and then people would immediately recognize his cubes everywhere. You may not want his pillowed 2x2, cool bro, don't buy it.


The amount of money it takes to release larger cubes is most likely much more than what it takes for him to produce the V-2. Like I said before, it's a cheap cube to produce and there's a large market for 2x2's. The V-2 could easily just be his way of getting the revenue to produce other cubes.




Edit: Nobody cares what you want. You are one person. One consumer. Verdes is thinking of the whole cubing population. Yes, many of us would buy the V-8 but it wouldn't sell as much as a 2x2 will. Understand that. 2x2s are more popular because they can be used in competition and not just for pure recreation. Even though you have a good 3x3 and 4x4 right now in a year or two they'll be out-dated. You may think the GuHong is the best in the world right now but it clearly isn't the best it can be since the Lubix GuHongs are so much better. And your 4x4 may be good but all 4x4's are lacking in design just because the best has yet to be made. There's no clear cut "best cube" and until there is, there's room for improvement, and that improvement may very well come from Verdes.

 

[Nestor]

Any decent collector MUST have the full V-series, it is just too appealing aesthetically and has historic value. So as long as they keep adding new cubes to it they will get some investment back. The problem is, collectors are a small percentage of the cubing market, and casual / speed solvers are indeed looking into better and cheaper options out there.

I too think Verdes has lost the war against KO's, and unless they find a way to lower their production prices I don't see them gaining a fair share of the market anytime soon. Is the Vcube 2 any good for speedcubing, any better than a LanLan for example? If the answer is no, then how can you expect to compete against a cube that is 3 times cheaper and better? On aesthetics alone?

 

[TheRubiksGod]

The point that i am trying to convey is that verdes is not pleasing the cubing community. I don't care about an 8x8x8. Verdes says he has a way of making it.

If he has the technology to make it, then why isnt he

"Possible response"

He has no money or time to produce the product, and the risk of no financial gain.

Everyone would buy anything that came out from v-cube because we love the dude. if he invented a v-cube 1 and sold it for $20.00 we would buy it for any reason. I am just saying that he is wasting his time with inventions like the illusion and the dazzler because its the same thing as the 7x7x7

 

[freshcuber]

The point that i am trying to convey is that verdes is not pleasing the cubing community. I don't care about an 8x8x8. Verdes says he has a way of making it.

Citation needed.

If he has no money then releasing a new, popular type of cube that will bring him a profit to produce more cubes is in no way a bad idea. The Dazzler and Illusion aren't all that new. It's not like people are banging on his door screaming for a 9x9 and he just threw these out to everyone. They, just like the 2x2, were easy to produce and brought him a profit that he can use to invest in other cubes.

 

[TheRubiksGod]

Citation needed.

If he has no money then releasing a new, popular type of cube that will bring him a profit to produce more cubes is in no way a bad idea. The Dazzler and Illusion aren't all that new. It's not like people are banging on his door screaming for a 9x9 and he just threw these out to everyone. They, just like the 2x2, were easy to produce and brought him a profit that he can use to invest in other cubes.

BAHAHAHA Citation needed? http://www.v-cubes.com/index.php do you not see the bouncing v-cubes? does he not say that he has invented a way to make larger cubes? does he not say that he invented it so that it can be unlimited layers. does he not say it is possible. His box and slogan says it for christ sake! we all have known this. We all know he has the capabilities to make it!!!

Quote from site

V-CUBE™ technology made possible the construction of a cube with an unlimited number of layers, providing safe and smooth rotation! The V-CUBE™ product series entails any sized cube ! Our patented V-CUBE™ Technology applies to cubes of layers ranging from 2x2x2 to 11x11x11. Here you can find and buy cubes of any size and and of various color combinations! Read more

"Ranging" 8-11 is a pretty big gap and 3-4 is a gap as well hmmm

The 2x2x2 is a joke, it is a way of making wait even longer for a cube that may never come from this company.

Ive no need to make a prototype of the 8x8x8 it has already been done! and from v-cubes as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IACDnMUFHlY&feature=fvst

 

[freshcuber]

Just because it is possible for him to do it does not mean he has the ability to. It's possible for me to command a submarine, that doesn't mean I have the ability to do it. Possible≠Capable

The 2x2 is a way to make money. You can't produce new cubes without the funds to do so and the 2x2 is his way of making that money. Of course V-Cubes has made a prototype 8x8 since you can't get a patent without a functioning prototype.

Edit: Are you stupid? That 8x8 is not from V-Cubes. It doesn't have the V-Cube logo and it says right in the title "8x8x8 Rubik's Cube by Da Baoqiang" not "8x8x8 Rubik's Cube by V-Cube." Nice try but that's a fail. It even says in the video description it was made by Da Baoqiang.

 

[TheRubiksGod]

Just because it is possible for him to do it does not mean he has the ability to. It's possible for me to command a submarine, that doesn't mean I have the ability to do it. Possible≠Capable

The 2x2 is a way to make money. You can't produce new cubes without the funds to do so and the 2x2 is his way of making that money. Of course V-Cubes has made a prototype 8x8 since you can't get a patent without a functioning prototype.

Edit: Are you stupid? That 8x8 is not from V-Cubes. It doesn't have the V-Cube logo and it says right in the title "8x8x8 Rubik's Cube by Da Baoqiang" not "8x8x8 Rubik's Cube by V-Cube." Nice try but that's a fail. It even says in the video description it was made by Da Baoqiang.

He has the patent my friend. Why don't you give him a call. He would say he could make it. BUT COULDN'T SELL IT BECAUSE HE WASTED HIS MONEY ON LOWER END PRODUCTS. Oh and by the way Verde's is the commander. he just wasted all his money for the 2x2x2

The 2x2x2 TAKES money to make produce and market. same as any larger cube. Since the 2x2x2 has been seen before it may not do well in the market. But if a brand new idea came out (Like the 7x7x7 did) it will sell great.

when the 7x7x7 came out it was so original and so awesome that it sales were amazing. He would actually gain money from the use of a new idea. like the 8x8x8 he promises or the 11x11x11

The 8x8x8 cube that you see in the video was used using the same technology v-cubes use. it uses the same parts but was constructed by Da Baoqiang. He said he made it. All cubes bigger than 7x7x7 are 99.8 percent close to v tech

It does not have the v-cube logo because he constructed it himself the same way verdes would have done but wanted to make sure people wouldn't be confused that that was a v-cube 8 prototype. you are the stupid one my friend (joking)

your pretty smart, but you need to think a bit more.

 

[freshcuber]

If we're going to talk about who needs to think more take a look at this:http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?25064-THE-CUBE-GOD-NEEDS-SOME-HELP!-HELP-MAH

Could have used a bit more thinking.

Although he has the patent and the legal ability to make the cube he may not have the other necessary requirements ie, the funds. Say I have a patent for a computer that is implanted into your head and you control all of it through thought. Say I make one prototype. It costs me hundreds of thousands of dollars to do that and now that I have the ability to legally produce the brain computer I don't have the material funds to do so. Same problem with Verdes. Even if he says it's possible and even if he has the ability to do it he currently doesn't have the means to produce larger cubes. The cost of a 2x2 is much less than that of an 8x8 because it takes less effort to produce it. Verdes also did very little marketing for the 2x2. Some Facebook pics got leaked onto here and then BAM it's known worldwide to thousands of cubers. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

The release of the 2x2 was not about making some earth shattering advancement. It was a way to raise funds to produce a new cube. He'll break even pretty quickly and then the profits will go to research and development of a new cube.

You said Verdes had created a prototype 8x8x8 cube and implied that the link you provided was to said prototype. It was not in any way a V-Cube product. That company had the means to produce that cube. It's actually the first I've ever heard from of that company so I'm surprised it could produce the 8x8 but it still isn't a V-Cube product so you just contradicted yourself.

 

[TheRubiksGod]

He had the ability to make it, but thought the Dazzler and the Illusion and 2x2x2 were more important.

My guess is that there will be no more higher cubes than that of the 7x7x7 from there company due to poor ideas and unkept promises. thanks for the drawings and the hype of larger cubes Mr. Verde's and not of the cubes themselves

 

[TheRubiksGod]

If we're going to talk about who needs to think more take a look at this:http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?25064-THE-CUBE-GOD-NEEDS-SOME-HELP!-HELP-MAH

Could have used a bit more thinking.

Although he has the patent and the legal ability to make the cube he may not have the other necessary requirements ie, the funds. Say I have a patent for a computer that is implanted into your head and you control all of it through thought. Say I make one prototype. It costs me hundreds of thousands of dollars to do that and now that I have the ability to legally produce the brain computer I don't have the material funds to do so. Same problem with Verdes. Even if he says it's possible and even if he has the ability to do it he currently doesn't have the means to produce larger cubes. The cost of a 2x2 is much less than that of an 8x8 because it takes less effort to produce it. Verdes also did very little marketing for the 2x2. Some Facebook pics got leaked onto here and then BAM it's known worldwide to thousands of cubers. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

The release of the 2x2 was not about making some earth shattering advancement. It was a way to raise funds to produce a new cube. He'll break even pretty quickly and then the profits will go to research and development of a new cube.

You said Verdes had created a prototype 8x8x8 cube and implied that the link you provided was to said prototype. It was not in any way a V-Cube product. That company had the means to produce that cube. It's actually the first I've ever heard from of that company so I'm surprised it could produce the 8x8 but it still isn't a V-Cube product so you just contradicted yourself.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA my first post! seriously, your getting desperate. Im cowering in fear!


READ YOU FOOL

THE 2x2x2 COST MONEY TO MAKE $$$$$$$$$$$

TO PRODUCE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

TO MARKET $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

all that money

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

could have been used to develop and produce a bigger and newer product that the community would be interested IN!

old ideas=less money
new ideas=more money

how many times must I repeat myself

 

[freshcuber]

The Illusion cost him absolutely nothing to make. It's just black and white plastic pieces alternating and since he already had the design and pieces manufactured from his V-7's then all he did was assemble it and he had a new puzzle he could sell. The costs to produce a new cube is most definitely very high. Adding a variation to an already existing design is very cheap to do and made him pure profit. The 2x2 isn't any more important than an 11x11. It was just more feasible at the time. Now that he has increased sales of a new cube he has increased revenue. That revenue will most surely be directed to a new cube. Maybe 3x3 (very unlikely) or a 4x4 (also pretty unlikely) or the 6b (which would be his worst choice unless it solves the current V-6's problems).

I believe he will release new cubes but I think he'll work his way through the lower order of cubes, 3x3 and 4x4, so that he'll have released V-Cubes 2x2's-7x7's. Only after that will he release larger cubes but that's only my speculation.

 

[freshcuber]

Apparently you're just too stubborn to comprehend my points. He spend no money marketing the 2x2. It was leaked and then people jumped on it. Literally. There must have been 5 threads about it in one day. People have already started to order it. Meaning he's making money.

The release of a larger cube takes more money, more effort, and more time.

The release of a smaller cube takes less money, less effort, and less time.


How many times do I have to repeat myself for that to become clear?

 

[TheRubiksGod]

Im done bickering with you

my final case

2x2x2 is an old idea and has been done before. there is no possible way to gain enough funds to fund a project as the v-cube 8-11. The only idea i can think of is to gain enough money to pay a debt off to fund a later v-cube project which will be about 4-5 years, maybe even longer.

as for the video you were right, kudos to you. but it shows it can be done implementing v tech

Thank you for the discussion and sorry for any disrespect to your name and you intellect. may we both hope for bigger cubes

 

[danthecuber]

TO MARKET $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

??????? I've never seen v-cube market any of their products outside of their own website.

 

[freshcuber]

Closing statements? Sounds like a good way to end this.

The 2x2x2, although old, was an easy way to make money and all we can do is speculate at why Verdes released the V-2 instead of the V-8 or V9 ect ect. The video does show that it can be done, and I'm sure at some point it will be done by Verdes.

It was a good debate, I too meant nothing against you and just got a little caught up in the action. Like you said, let's hope we do get the larger V-Cubes released because I would love to do a V-Cube 2-11 relay, as I'm sure many others would.

 

[vcuber]

the 2 came out. look sweet. 12 bucks.

 

[vcuber]

Im done bickering with you

my final case

2x2x2 is an old idea and has been done before. there is no possible way to gain enough funds to fund a project as the v-cube 8-11. The only idea i can think of is to gain enough money to pay a debt off to fund a later v-cube project which will be about 4-5 years, maybe even longer.

as for the video you were right, kudos to you. but it shows it can be done implementing v tech

Thank you for the discussion and sorry for any disrespect to your name and you intellect. may we both hope for bigger cubes

yeah, but think of this. the 3x3 was really old. but then the dayan guhong came out, and it just exploded with popularity. like i said, the 2 is out, and it might get enough funds for a 3x3. then enough funds for a 4x4. if the come out with the best 4x4, it too will probably sell a lot. then they can move up and up and up until they hit 11. or they go broke. that could happen too.

 

[AvGalen]

Im done bickering with you

my final case

2x2x2 is an old idea and has been done before. there is no possible way to gain enough funds to fund a project as the v-cube 8-11. The only idea i can think of is to gain enough money to pay a debt off to fund a later v-cube project which will be about 4-5 years, maybe even longer.

as for the video you were right, kudos to you. but it shows it can be done implementing v tech

Thank you for the discussion and sorry for any disrespect to your name and you intellect. may we both hope for bigger cubes

3x3x3 is an old idea and has been done before. There is no possible way to gain enough funds to ................. wait, people ARE actually making money from doing just that. 5x5x5 has been done before as well. Should a V5 not have been created?

The total market for 2x2x2 might be 1 million units, for 8x8x8 might be 10.000 (guessing numbers here, but obviously "normal" people will be much more likely to buy a "doable" 2x2x2 than in "impossible" 8x8x8.). V-Cubes aren't just sold through the websited to speedsolvers. They probably make significantly more money from bulk-sales to toy-companies (or their suppliers) than to speedcubers.

Yes, Verdes could make 8-11 but to make them GOOD a few prototypes will be needed and a new production line would be needed. If you can't see that this process for a 2x2x2 is significantly easier you should not be discussing manufacturing.

Sticker variations aren't my favorite, but the investment that was needed to create them was low and the revenue was probably high enough to get some profit from it.

The Chinese haven't won. They "stole" the 9 and 11 but haven't made a better 5, 6 or 7 and the biggest one that has been made is actually not Chinese and is 17x17x17. You can buy that one by the way, no V-Cube patents are involved as they clearly only claim patents until 11x11x11

V-Cubes might or might not have build protototypes for V8, V9, V10 and V11 but that isn't needed to get a patent! You can get patents purely based on theory. I actually think they haven't build these prototypes

V-Cubes DOES do marketing. Where do you think those free V-Cubes after a competition come from? And why do you thing they are coming to the Mall-of-America?

There were just too many misconceptions in this thread to avoid getting involved.

 

[freshcuber]

Ah well thanks for all the clarification AvGalen. Greatly appreciated since I learned a new thing or two.

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

The v-cube company has gone downhill. Sure the 2 layered cube was released. But is that it. Should we expect the same kind with multicolored stickers? different colors. Why not release a v-cube 8 why a two. Isn't that what we have been waiting for? While in fact he has revolutionized cubing as did Erno. Another company will obtain the thrown soon. Verde's will probably not release any cubes bigger than the seven and will be in the bottom list. for he has lost the cube race. and the chinese have won (they made the big ones first sorry v-fans)

we should only expect more crap like Picture v-cube or something like that. a modified v-cube seven. verdes is poor because he spends too much time making these modified cubes.

in the near future we must come to thank v-cube for his contributions. but just because Erno invented the rubiks cube first, doesn't make it the best. as with V-Cubes

this is what we will be saying in two years.

"You own a v-cube BAHAHAHA i own an Z-Cube with adjustable screws, light weight and in a cube form your "V" cube SUCKs THEY ONLY MAKE 7 WHERES THE 11x11x11!!!!)

Your a moron...You don't know a thing about Verde's position right now.

There is no ignorance in the above post. Verdes is an amazing person with an amazing head.

The Reason i said those things is because he does not understand our needs. While he is in his corner inventing a black and white v-cube or a colored V-cube we sit her demanding larger cubes.

but no. cheap crap fest like the dazzler are being invented and wasting our time. save your money verdes and invest in an 8x8x8 not a "Dazzler" cube, because no one cares

The v-cube six can be fixed!
has he done anything to make it better no.
Don't you think that if we messaged him saying how to fix his clicking problem he would fix it.

The chinese have won, why. Because they understand our needs and our wants. our addictions. the cures. They are the ones making a profit while the dazzler and cheap lower cubes are being manufactured and thrown in our faces. We have been patient long enough. a simple 2x2x2 cube will simply not cut it.

Even if the chinese produce cheap breakable cubes at least they are making it. while we sit and wait for v-cube to make large cubes we have to wait while the chinese say in our face

"Look we actually "MADE" it"

v-cube gets angry and says

"well we DREW it"

The final point. V-cube should start investing and saving its money on a larger cube. not a 2x2x2 or a dazzler or a pillowed shaped cube.

cause quite frankly mr verdes i don't care!

(The last sentence says that another company will rule over v-cube in the near future)

First bold: Don't lie.
Second Bold: If you think it's SOOOOO easy, you do it. Don't take the company for granted for everything you want.
Third Bold:No they didn't. The 9x9 sucks, the 11x11 suck barely less if not equal/more.
Fourth Bold: Mr. Verdes does not live to please some random kid who's screen name is TheRubiksGod.

The point that i am trying to convey is that verdes is not pleasing the cubing community. I don't care about an 8x8x8. Verdes says he has a way of making it.

If he has the technology to make it, then why isnt he

"Possible response"

He has no money or time to produce the product, and the risk of no financial gain.

Everyone would buy anything that came out from v-cube because we love the dude. if he invented a v-cube 1 and sold it for $20.00 we would buy it for any reason. I am just saying that he is wasting his time with inventions like the illusion and the dazzler because its the same thing as the 7x7x7

First: How about he never released any product at all and acted dead?
Second:Okay, then stop complaining then...
Third: Absolute BS. Don't make stuff up, you don't look any cooler than you aren't. How about using that brain of yours? Or is it non-existant?

BAHAHAHA Citation needed? http://www.v-cubes.com/index.php do you not see the bouncing v-cubes? does he not say that he has invented a way to make larger cubes? does he not say that he invented it so that it can be unlimited layers. does he not say it is possible. His box and slogan says it for christ sake! we all have known this. We all know he has the capabilities to make it!!!

Quote from site

V-CUBE™ technology made possible the construction of a cube with an unlimited number of layers, providing safe and smooth rotation! The V-CUBE™ product series entails any sized cube ! Our patented V-CUBE™ Technology applies to cubes of layers ranging from 2x2x2 to 11x11x11. Here you can find and buy cubes of any size and and of various color combinations! Read more

"Ranging" 8-11 is a pretty big gap and 3-4 is a gap as well hmmm

The 2x2x2 is a joke, it is a way of making wait even longer for a cube that may never come from this company.

Ive no need to make a prototype of the 8x8x8 it has already been done! and from v-cubes as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IACDnMUFHlY&feature=fvst

First: Yes, we understand. Animations are adorable. Now stfu.

Now if you're soooooo angry, how about you take this up with Verdes, face-to-face, instead of bashing on the Internet? We didn't do anything to you. Well, except for replying to your stupid posts. What are you, seven?