Dayan Vs Verdes Petition

[Kapusta]

I signed, but I'm not boycotting anything. I still think V-Cubes is a good company, but I fail to see where the Guhong fits into the patent. Personally, I'd buy from both companies.

 

[HavoCentral]

Copy Pasta'!

I have sent a message to change the statement to what you said with a link here
http://v-cubes.com/pdf/European_patent.pdf instead.

If it gets changed i will let you know.

I have always been a horrible writer and I thank you for your contribution.

 

[Sa967St]

If it gets changed i will let you know.

I doubt you'll be able to change it. The people who signed so far have agreed to what you originally wrote, so there could be issues if you were able to change the wording of the petition.

 

[HavoCentral]

I doubt you'll be able to change it. The people who signed so far have agreed to what you originally wrote, so there could be issues if you were able to change the wording of the petition.

I thought about that, but it could still happen since I am not changing in entirely, just rewording and adding documentation.
But who knows.

Should a new one be started?

 

[Dene]

I think you should stop being stupid and wait to find out the facts.

 

[Cyrus C.]

This whole thing seems blown out of proportion...

 

[danielwrr]

I was the 100th siggnature \o/

I won't buy any v-cubes if they really do this to dayan guhong cubes..

(And i'm sure that i won't buy any v-cubes soon here in Brazil)

 

[HavoCentral]

I think you should stop being stupid and wait to find out the facts.

I'm not the only person commenting on this incident and I would be happy to wait, but it is unknown if and when any facts or valid points are to be officially released.

 

[EnterPseudonym]

i say we boycott verdes for trying to take down the cubes and we boycott dayan for copying a part of the design.

 

[Dene]

I'm not the only person commenting on this incident and I would be happy to wait, but it is unknown if and when any facts or valid points are to be officially released.

So you admit yourself that you don't know anything yet you still demand that the "ruling overturned". You make obscenely false claims such as "V-Cube is notorious for taking good cubes off the market for because they are doing well" that are not only damaging to their reputation, but are said despite your own acknowledgement that you don't know what is going on.

You're just being a young and immature twat. Time to grow up and join the real world.

 

[HavoCentral]

So you admit yourself that you don't know anything yet you still demand that the "ruling overturned". You make obscenely false claims such as "V-Cube is notorious for taking good cubes off the market for because they are doing well" that are not only damaging to their reputation, but are said despite your own acknowledgement that you don't know what is going on.

You're just being a young and immature twat. Time to grow up and join the real world.

First off, I would like to inform you that flaming is against forum rules.
Second, Im not young. And third, I do know what is going on.
V-Cube contacted Ebay and had them remove guhongs from auctions on patent infringement claims.

Here's what I got from eBay that kind of started it all...

Spoiler

Dear speakerdamage33

You recently listed the following listing:

120640305552 - The Ultimate Lubix GuHong - DaYan 3x3 Cube BLACK
120657997536 - The Ultimate Lubix GuHong - DaYan 3x3 Cube WHITE


Your listing has been removed.

Your item was removed because of a request we received from Verdes Innovation S.A., a member of our Verified Rights Owner Program (VeRO), asking us to remove the item for:

- Item(s) has been adjudged to infringe a valid and enforceable patent (requires patent registration number and identification of claims adjudged to be infringed).

For more information on why your item was removed, you should:
- Contact Verdes Innovation S.A. directly at (REMOVED) with your questions or concerns.
- Wait 7 days for Verdes Innovation S.A. to reply to you. Although most VeRO participants are willing to respond to polite email, please know that they aren't obligated to reply.
- If after 7 days you haven't received a response from Verdes Innovation S.A., please contact us by simply replying to this email.

The rights owner or an agent authorized to act on behalf of the rights owner, Verdes Innovation S.A., notified eBay that this listing violates intellectual property rights. When eBay receives a report of this type of violation, we remove the listing to comply with the law.



The Rights Owner has alleged that the product(s) in your listing infringe upon their valid and enforceable patent .

If you have additional questions in regard to contacting the VeRO Member or if you need additional information on how to contact the VeRO Member, you can chat with one of our policy experts.

You can reach them from 6:00AM to 11:00 PM MST. Get started by clicking
the link below.

(REMOVED)

You may need to take a tutorial. The next time you sell, you may be asked to take the tutorial, if it's required. Once you've completed the tutorial successfully, please review your account status for any other possible concerns. If there are no other issues, you should be able to sell again.

To take the intellectual property tutorial, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/tutorial/verotutorial/intro.html

Please be aware that any additional violations of this policy may result in the suspension of your account. eBay understands that you may be concerned about this situation. We encourage you to contact Verdes Innovation S.A. directly if you have any questions.

You can send an email to: (REMOVED)

For more information on how eBay protects Intellectual Property, or for additional information if you believe that your listing has been removed as a result of an error or misidentification, please visit the following Help page:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/programs-vero-ov.html



For more information on why eBay may remove a listing, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/listing-ended.html

Please be assured that your listings have not been targeted in any way. Although there may be similar items currently listed on eBay, we review all listings that are reported to us by eBay members or Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) program participants. We rely on reports from our members to help maintain the safety and security of our Community. We encourage you to report any items by using the REPORT THIS ITEM button on the listing so we can quickly remove any other items that should be removed.



Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety team


H5265

- Pixel -

As well as contacting private shops, according to one of these shops, V-Cube claims the guhongs corners infringe on the corners of the V5. Video - 30 seconds in.

What I meant is when V-Cube themselves releases an official statement about what is happening.

Obscenely false claims? Maru 4x4 - gone Chinese 6b - Gone

 

[TheMachanga]

I guess I'm the first to say.

I didn't sign.

EDIT: lol, I read some of the signatures. They remind me of those pop music fans that always say, "your juz jelous, hater!!!1".

 

[HavoCentral]

you didn't, but 175 have. lol

I respect your opinion and agree that most of the comments are the same.

 

[Stefan]

Yes, this thing does have issues (grammar, wrong claims, not being a petition), but let's just take it as what it is - an expression of the confusion and anger that Verdes/Pantazis have created.

dayan for copying a part of the design.

How do you know he copied it and didn't independently come up with it?

 

[Whyusosrs?]

I'm not the only person commenting on this incident and I would be happy to wait, but it is unknown if and when any facts or valid points are to be officially released.

Please read this:

You're just being a young and immature twat. Time to grow up and join the real world.

First off, I would like to inform you that flaming is against forum rules.

Stupidity should be against the rules.

Second, Im not young.

You look MAYBE 17 in your picture. OMGWTFBBQ THAT IS SO OLD. DID THEY HAVE FIRE BACK THEN?!?!

And third, I do know what is going on.

No, you don't know what's going on. You heard from someone what has happened so now you start a poorly written petition which doesn't even look serious enough to make a company recall cribs that kill babies.

You try so desperately to "fit in" but all you're doing is annoying me and other members. Please, stop trying to act intelligent, it's making me angsty.

[/rant]

 

[HavoCentral]

I'm 20.
And by your logic, no one knows what is going on except a handful of people, since everyone heard it from someone else.
And how do most people find out things, by hearing other people talk about it.
So if I hear something happened on the news, does that mean I don't know what is happening since I heard it from someone?

And I have admitted the petition is poorly written, but the petition also isn't an official petition.
It was originally meant to get the ruling overturned, but now its more about seeing how many people are against the ruling in general, and how badly this has affected V-Cubes future sales.

 

[Whyusosrs?]

I'm 20.

I was right! They didn't have fire back then! You old, bro.

And by your logic, no one knows what is going on except a handful of people, since everyone heard it from someone else.

Yep.

And how do most people find out things, by hearing other people talk about it.

Yep. Have you ever played the game telephone? Basically you tell something to one person and then they tell the next person etc. etc. by the end of the line the message is so different. My point, bashing a company based on information that you have read/heard is not reliable.

So if I hear something happened on the news, does that mean I don't know what is happening since I heard it from someone?

Yep. Since when has the news been consistently reliable?

get the ruling overturned

Objection, your honor!

how badly this has affected V-Cubes future sales.

I'll bet you 75% of the people who said they would boycott v-cube sales say that now. But as soon as they want a 7x7x7, they'll run straight to v-cubes. Of the remaining 25% who said they would boycott, 15% already have plenty of v-cubes and so boycotting is no big deal.

 

[uberCuber]

haters gonna hate

 

[gravityjoe35]

GuHong/LingYun Patent vs V-cubes

Dear Friends,

I have just read and signed the online petition:

"Verdes Vs Dayan"

hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/VeVsDa/

I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself. We can bring these 2 top speedcubes back to the market so please take a moment to sign.

Best wishes,

Skylar Neilsen

 

[Kirjava]

WHAT THE HELL WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!?!?1?!