Cuber's IQ

Gaétan Guimond said:
Why the youngest world champion at 12 years only cube (Macky Makisumi) and the youngest chess champion gamer is 22 years old (Gary Kasparov). Perhaps because it compares the smart of a speed cube timer only.
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Chess is much too complicated for the vast majority of 12 year olds to master. Cubing only takes a method and then practise the same stuff over and over. Pretty obvious.
 
Cubenovice said:
WHY would you want to test your kids IQ at that young age?
Some sort of self-gratification for the parents perhaps?
Put a burdon on the kids shoulders from early on?
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I cannot speak for others whose parents had them IQ tested, but I was tested because the gifted program at the first elementary school I attended required its applicants to be IQ tested. That IQ test also proved to be necessary for me to apply to my second elementary school, so I know that being tested at an early age has benefitted me at multiple points in my life so far. I won't say that self-gratification cannot play a role in the reasoning of parents, but know that there are other reasons to have children tested.

Now for a completely tangential question that's been bothering me lately. I posted this in the One Answer Question Thread, but to no avail. It is not my intention to hijack the thread, but I really want an answer to this. Here's what I posted:

JTW2007 said:
I was just reading through the IQ thread in the Off-Topic section, and I clicked on Stefan's link to Wolfram Alpha. As you can see, it displays percentile rank in the results table. Being unfamiliar with Wolfram Alpha (which is a pretty interesting tool, if I do say so myself), I started experimenting with it. I noticed that if you search for any IQ value greater than 138, it displays a percentile rank of 100. It was my understanding that a percentile rank of 100 was unachievable, because you would have to beat yourself in order to score higher than 100 percent of recorded IQs. Would someone please clarify? Do I misunderstand the concept of percentile rank? Is this statistic something else entirely?
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tl;dr

I have an IQ of 143.
But it wasn't good enough to get me into Mensa -_____-

Damn the overly-gifted =/
How dost one judge mine worth with a piece of paper?

[EDIT]
Interestingly enough, I don't score exceptionally well for my academic studies despite an IQ of 143.
Guess natural stuff can't compensate for hard work.

I just don't have an interest in school-shizz ><
 
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Corrolation between IQ and Cubing

We've all heard hoards of people assault us with compliments as to our intellect.

"OMGWTFBBQ YOU MUST BE A GENIUS!"
"Wow. You must be good at math!"
"Bro, is your IQ 7000?!"
"*Faints*"

But I got to wondering... Is this actually true?

We all know that theoretically anyone can become a cuber. But what if people who become interested just overall have a higher IQ?

I'm just asking everyone what their IQ is, and then I'll create an average from all the IQ's posted.


Current Average: 141
International Average: ~ 100


My IQ is 141.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Don't use an online IQ test. Take one created and graded by professionals. This will cost money.
If you went to school in the US, they give you an IQ test in elementary school. This is on your record if you are still in High School or below. Just go to the office of your school and ask to see your IQ score from your files.

EDIT: You know, I should really start using that search function...
 
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personally,i ahven't taken any kind of tests neitehr in school nor in any otehr places (because tehre weren't any :()
but i think i'm quite an intelectual person,i have wide range or knowledge and as far as i see,people interested in cubing,they're still a lil bit more clever,smart or whateva than otehr poeple....
of course it migth be the case of personal interest but still....
= )
 
thesolver said:
Also some people think that you need a very high IQ and that you need to be really good in mathematics for solving a cube.
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Technically, they're right. A large component of IQ is pattern recognition, including mirroring and rotation. If you ever do an IQ test, you probably see a series of shapes where two are identical, but one has a certain degree of rotation applied to it.
If you don't possess these skills, you will struggle to understand how cubies move; mirroring algs; looking ahead, etc..

I'd go as far as to say you need a pretty high IQ, amongst other things, to be a great cuber. You can be an average cuber without, though!
 
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pipkiksass said:
Technically, they're right. A large component of IQ is pattern recognition, including mirroring and rotation. If you ever do an IQ test, you probably see a series of shapes where two are identical, but one has a certain degree of rotation applied to it.
If you don't possess these skills, you will struggle to understand how cubies move; mirroring algs; looking ahead, etc..

I'd go as far as to say you need a pretty high IQ, amongst other things, to be a great cuber. You can be an average cuber without, though!
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My dad's IQ is over 150, and he's improving freakishly fast at cubing. Agreed.
 
Honestly if you think IQ has anything to do with it, and yours is as high as you claim, you'd be much faster by now. It's dedication. I started in January and I'm sub 14. Hours of practice per day is all it took.
 
kclejeune said:
Honestly if you think IQ has anything to do with it, and yours is as high as you claim, you'd be much faster by now. It's dedication. I started in January and I'm sub 14. Hours of practice per day is all it took.
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I don't understand the purpose of this post. IQ absolutely does have something to do with it. It's a measure of your ability to recognise patterns and rotations thereof. So how would having a good IQ not relate to cubing?! Are you saying you have a surprisingly LOW IQ, and your dedication overcame this?!

Who's claiming to have a high IQ, anyway? Rj is taking about his dad!

As per my last post, I think you need a high IQ to be a great cuber, I'd imagine there's nobody sub-9 who's got an IQ below about 140. I'd love to be proven wrong.

I also said 'amongst other things', i.e. practice & dedication. I don't think people with a high IQ can just pick up a cube and be sub 10, that's clearly nonsensical.

Unfortunately I don't have hours a day to spare, or even an hour, but I'm sure I could be an adequate cuber if I did!
 
pipkiksass said:
Technically, they're right. A large component of IQ is pattern recognition, including mirroring and rotation. If you ever do an IQ test, you probably see a series of shapes where two are identical, but one has a certain degree of rotation applied to it.
If you don't possess these skills, you will struggle to understand how cubies move; mirroring algs; looking ahead, etc..

I'd go as far as to say you need a pretty high IQ, amongst other things, to be a great cuber. You can be an average cuber without, though!
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I agree with what you said. I believe you need a pretty high IQ to have a chance of doing very well. But of course dedication and practice is the other part of it. The way I think of it (and other things) is that dedication and practice will take you as far as your potential. Our potential is pretty high, but if you have higher IQ your potential is also higher.
 
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